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Serious discussion of the topics at hand...

Postby Gregg » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:35 pm

This thread grows out of these comments,
What relevance is this pub-talk to Sovrun Paralegals? None at all.

None whatsoever, but since its still interesting and doing no harm it's fully in the spirit of the long Quatloos tradition of not having real rules as much as guidelines, open to liberal interpretation when it suits us.

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In my view, filling threads with off-topic material damages the utility of the forum. Readers who are interested in the topic need to wade past irrelevant stuff. Writers are discouraged from posting useful information when this will get buried in irrelevant stuff.

The problem is peculiar to the UK forum. The USA and Canada forums don't have this problem, which makes them far more readable.

If Quatloos is sufficiently freewheeling that it allows off-topic pub-talk, then I'm sure it also allows my moans about it. (Just as you are free to ignore my moans, obviously.)

OK?

lodged in another discussion, here.....

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Re: Serious discussion of the topics at hand...

Postby Gregg » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:58 pm

And I am the snarky son of a bitch in the second comment, I apologize if anyone thinks its disrespectful, I was just trying to be light and funny.... but I digress.

I totally agree that the UK Forum is much less structured than the Canada and US sections. There is a reason for that. Most of you were not around for the great schism and purge of 2013 or so, until that time all these light comedy routines were confined to a long lost section, a section that eventually descended into some pretty ugly fighting, flaming, and nastiness which led to tow of the three absolute rules of the forum

No Politics
No Religion

(the third is, honest to betsy, No gratuitous pictures of Zooey Deschanel)

A large swath of the forum disappeared and it was restated that the main reason for the forum was to serve as a resource for law enforcement, governments, education and other serious and somber people. At the time a whole lot of the membership was connected to these things, most of us had been here for quite some time and kind of were familiar with each other. So we got down to the serious business of collecting data for people outside the community to use to help combat the scams in the world.

And then, as someone said, along came Tom Crawford and suddenly our posts from the UK went from a few dozen a week to 20 pages of posts and topics and new users (most of whom are not Attorneys, Accountants and other people here as part of their profession) and we decided to create a dedicated forum.
It has from the beginning been less serious than the North American sections. Part of that is the UK membership is not as centered on actually and professionally fighting scams and a bit more along the lines of poking the ignorant, and laughing at them.
For me, a big part of it is my love of Britain and of course how quaint a lot of the entire UK is from an Americans point of view. Another thing both entertaining and maddening about your sov'run nuts is when they get lightly brushed up against and start screaming "Police Brutality", trust me, in the US anyway, we know our police brutality and the UK hasn't seen any good police brutality since Henry VIII. Just about the time Crithy Morith starts going on about unlarful documents is when he'd be getting tased and beaten senseless in Los Angeles, and even that as a white guy. So pardon some of us for not taking your nuts and fruitloops too sternly. Face it, they'd have about a 7 second life expectancy in Detroit.

Anyhow, the point is, there is a lot of history and good reason for the more solemn tone of the US and Canada forums, but that at least springs from the fact that most of the UK users aren't remotely the same as the North American ones, and its not that anyone would be in anyway hostile to them, but most of the UK posters wouldn't fit on a forum that was more like those.

I hope you understand....
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Re: Serious discussion of the topics at hand...

Postby Gregg » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:14 pm

Oh, very important to mention...

The comments above are mine, and mine alone. Although I am a moderator I do not now or ever speak unilaterally for Quatloos. Upper management might not agree at all with me, and certainly shouldn't be liable for my own random comments.

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Postby Penny Wise » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:23 pm

I don't see an issue to be honest, providng the comments are light hearted and do not breach the 3 golden rules.

The problem at the moment is that thanks to Tom Crawfraud the UK section here exploded in activity. Now that Tom is yesterday's news and to be honest there is nothing really happening in the UK on the SovCit front (Guy is on the wagon, Tom will never get his house back) Chrisy fell flat on his face, Peter of England has not posted on facebook in 2017 and goodf has gone, there is a lack of UK content to discuss.

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Postby Siegfried Shrink » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:27 pm

"In my view, filling threads with off-topic material damages the utility of the forum. Readers who are interested in the topic need to wade past irrelevant stuff".

In the past week or so I have read 500 - 600 pages of posts, that's most of the front page mega threads, and in my opinion the padding and irrelevant bits are like condiments that flavour the broth. There remains plenty to marvel at. I was hoping for some insight into why people go irrational, maybe insights will develop.

Some posters let the side down a bit by confusing their, there and they're and similar solecisms, there is a little too many repetitve 'what an idiot' posts
and I have learned that the blue posts that are so hard to read can be safely skipped as they are usually not much for content, but in general I'd say the mix is pretty serviceable with solid research and citations where available and in general posters are aimiable and witty, the sort you'd be happy to chat with anywhere.

Bit like an old fashioned saloon bar, without the expense for beer. I have not really been to pubs much for 30 years so I have no idea if the old Saloon Bar / Public Bar dichotomy even exists any more, and I maam fairly sure it is just a British thing.

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Postby notorial dissent » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:25 pm

Penny Wise wrote:I don't see an issue to be honest, providng the comments are light hearted and do not breach the 3 golden rules.

The problem at the moment is that thanks to Tom Crawfraud the UK section here exploded in activity. Now that Tom is yesterday's news and to be honest there is nothing really happening in the UK on the SovCit front (Guy is on the wagon, Tom will never get his house back) Chrisy fell flat on his face, Peter of England has not posted on facebook in 2017 and goodf has gone, there is a lack of UK content to discuss.

Until the next freeman guru comes along it is going to be quiet

About the only UK things left are Rehka's ultimate and permanent departure from not her house, and the on going tragi-comedy of the laughable/larful rebellion bunch who are just finding newer and dumber ways to repeat the same old fails.
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Postby Hercule Parrot » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:34 pm

Gregg wrote:.... And then, as someone said, along came Tom Crawford and suddenly our posts from the UK went from a few dozen a week to 20 pages of posts and topics and new users (most of whom are not Attorneys, Accountants and other people here as part of their profession) and we decided to create a dedicated forum.

It has from the beginning been less serious than the North American sections. Part of that is the UK membership is not as centered on actually and professionally fighting scams and a bit more along the lines of poking the ignorant, and laughing at them....

Anyhow, the point is, there is a lot of history and good reason for the more solemn tone of the US and Canada forums, but that at least springs from the fact that most of the UK users aren't remotely the same as the North American ones, and its not that anyone would be in anyway hostile to them, but most of the UK posters wouldn't fit on a forum that was more like those.


I think this is correct. The US sections of Q tend to be quite focused and professional, albeit with some friendly chat occasionally. There is some admirable sleuthing and reportage there, especially Burnaby's court observations. I can spend hours reading the history of leading US and Canuck Freemen tax dodgers. And there are some US idiot-mocking topics which would slot nicely into here - (eg NESARA Loves Orly! viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9162)

But yes, the UK sub-forum is different - a broader view from a more diverse and sometimes raucous membership. Some of that is circumstance - our tax system doesn't provide the same entertainment opportunities, and there has never been a TP movement as such in UK. Some of it is national character, a British tendency towards dark, absurdist humour, and what we call "the bants". We are also perhaps more motivated by scorn towards UK sovcit PLD types, who we see as morally defective parasites.

The UK Q sub-forum is nearer to Fogbow-style, I think (other dual-nationals may not agree) and not any worse for that. I personally don't mind the diversions to beer-talk or daschund adventures, I think they leaven the board with some human irreverence. I chafe under the lash of the no politics rule, but I can easily nip over to the 'Bow for a liberal rant when needed.

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Re: Serious discussion of the topics at hand...

Postby Burnaby49 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:30 am

Bit like an old fashioned saloon bar, without the expense for beer. I have not really been to pubs much for 30 years so I have no idea if the old Saloon Bar / Public Bar dichotomy even exists any more, and I maam fairly sure it is just a British thing.


Yes and no. A few, very few, pubs have maintained the traditional saloon bar/public bar setup as a matter of tradition. The best example I've seen is the Lord Alfred in London, an absolutely magnificent Victorian pub with five separate entrances to five entirely unconnected parts of the bar.

https://pubheritage.camra.org.uk/pubs/historic-pub-interior-entry.asp?NatPubID=WLD/16261&Detail=full

However the old custom of charging different prices for the same beer in different parts of the pub is long gone.
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Postby Arthur Rubin » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:38 pm

Burnaby49 wrote:However the old custom of charging different prices for the same beer in different parts of the pub is long gone.
How about the old custom of charging obnoxious blowhards more for their beer?
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Postby bmxninja357 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:07 pm

Arthur Rubin wrote:How about the old custom of charging obnoxious blowhards more for their beer?


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