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Re: Sov-Cit Victory Currencies defined, Quatloos Code

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:25 am
by arayder
The Observer wrote:I'd say they suffer from over-confidence. They have done things that I would simply be too scared to try myself, knowing in a million years I'd never pull it off. They, on the other hand, don't seem to worry about the consequences, and even when they are suffering consequences from their idiotic decisions, only see their current predicament as temporary. Since they now have the ebil gubmint right where they want them, their new cunning plan will save the day.
Sounds something like the Dunning-Kruger Syndrome.

Re: Sov-Cit Victory Currencies defined, Quatloos Code

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:01 pm
by TheNewSaint
Another required trait, I think, is being single.

Having a family, especially young children, makes you a lot more averse to pissing away your life savings trying to make a point. Being in a relationship also means decisions are shared; it's a lot harder to get two people down the rabbit hole than one.

In cases where the FMOTL was part of a family, the husband tended to dictate things. Tom Crawford, Sean David Morton, and Robert 'Crab Bait' White come to mind.

Or, the relationship suffers. Financial problems are a major source of stress in any relationship. That's usually what drives people to freedman theories, which make their financial problems worse. Unwillingness to compromise is another major reason that relationships fail; it's practically a required trait of freedmen.

Being a FMOTL is almost antithetical to being good at human relationships. They require opposite traits. So FMOTLs tend to be anti-social types. We can see this in the online groups they form. They have no real empathy for each other (witness Burnaby's comment about no one showing up to other people's court dates), nothing in common beyond ideology, and fall out over petty things.

There's no one term to describe it all, but i think there is a profile to be found here.

Re: Sov-Cit Victory Currencies defined, Quatloos Code

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:32 pm
by longdog
TheNewSaint wrote:There's no one term to describe it all...
What's wrong with the word 'wanker'? :snicker:

Re: Sov-Cit Victory Currencies defined, Quatloos Code

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:43 pm
by The Observer
TheNewSaint wrote:Another required trait, I think, is being single.
There are too many examples of sovrun/FOTL/tax protesters who were married and had families that would negate your claim of being single as a required trait. They may end up being single at the end of their trek, but having a family has never stopped these idiots from pursuing their dream. Certainly, the more extremist of sovrun/FOTL/TPs tend to be single. but that is probably more due to them lacking the social skills and maturity to attract the opposite sex.

Re: Sov-Cit Victory Currencies defined, Quatloos Code

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:07 pm
by TheNewSaint
Ok, "required" was a bad choice of words on my part. But i think failure at relationships in general is part of the profile.

Re: Sov-Cit Victory Currencies defined, Quatloos Code

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:00 pm
by The Observer
That I can agree with.

Re: Sov-Cit Victory Currencies defined, Quatloos Code

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:09 am
by He Who Knows
It seems David Robinson himself has the answer to "What's wrong with these SovCits?"
David Robinson wrote: It is insanity to deny evidential facts, but because of all the toxins in our environment it seems to me that people are becoming more insane than enlightened.,...ego's keep people from truth

Re: Sov-Cit Victory Currencies defined, Quatloos Code

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:48 pm
by Penny Wise
Given recent events is a Rekha soon to be worth more than a Crawford ?

Re: Sov-Cit Victory Currencies defined, Quatloos Code

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:58 pm
by The Observer
Penny Wise wrote:Given recent events is a Rekha soon to be worth more than a Crawford ?
Yes, no one gave consideration to the possible effects of inflationary cycles.

Re: Sov-Cit Victory Currencies defined, Quatloos Code

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:09 pm
by Burnaby49
Penny Wise wrote:Given recent events is a Rekha soon to be worth more than a Crawford ?
Obviously. Tom never had an arrest warrant issued for him. Rheka's breaking new ground in losing her home, going broke, and possibly losing her job and ending up in jail.

I have to constantly keep in mind that this was all over some roof tiles.

Re: Sov-Cit Victory Currencies defined, Quatloos Code

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:05 am
by notorial dissent
Yes, a true innovator that one is. At this rate she is going to innovate herself in to a real penal term on top of being homeless, broke, and unemployed/able.