Steve McRae - Expert in F*** All

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Steve McRae - Expert in F*** All

Postby SteveUK » Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:54 pm

A branch off the thread on Sovereign “Paralegals” found at http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=11431.

Steve joined the group and was making moves to become one of their gurus. Shortly after that the group was locked down. Shame - another source of entertainment closed down.

Steve’s amazing work can be found at the debacle of a website that is http://www.expertinalllegalmatters.com.

His works so far include:

- the most pathetic ‘you’re traded on the stock exchange’ scam.
-Helen and her ‘free house scam’.
-charging £5k for a piece of shit coat of arms and mysterious letters to the Vatican.So secret that you don’t get a copy yourself.

Enjoy.
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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby Siegfried Shrink » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:51 pm

This particular carbuncle has not done much except post complete nonsense on You Tube; what must be his string of utter failures is not given the self publicity other gurus and groups achieve.
Still, I think he can be relied on for more demonstrations of his utter disregard for the real world and its legal codes.
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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby Hercule Parrot » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:38 am

I can never work out whether he's Steve McCrae or Steve McCrae Bingham, or some other made-up name. What is clear however is his dismal lack knowledge about legal matters, even by the low standards of his Sovcit FMOTL fraternity (who appear very unimpressed with him). Hope to be jeering at him in 2018.
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An expert in all legal matters? Steve McRae

Postby IDIOT » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:29 am

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHvCmh ... tBmQL_1k9g

http://expertinalllegalmatters.com/

"The Expert will sort all your legal problems head on.
So when the letter or charge or bill or summons comes to your letter box, get in touch straight away, and let the Expert deal with them and make them disappear forever."

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Re: An expert in all legal matters? Steve McRae

Postby hucknallred » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:06 pm

Expert in having too many threads possibly?

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=11600

People also post on the Sovrun Paraleguls thread about him, despite him having nothing to do with that group.

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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby The Seventh String » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:02 am

Whichever thread he should be in this page -

http://expertinalllegalmatters.com/meet-the-team

- contains some of the worst photoshopped heads stuck onto bodies I’ve ever seen.

I note that the site boasts about having an expert in making organic compost on the team. Presumably to deal with the vast quantities of bull**** the “expert” produces.

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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby SteveUK » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:19 am

Conveniently, he also advertises his "legal" services on places like loot, gumtree etc. Thats a first as far as I'm aware. I'm almost tempted to report the ads.

Description
Are You Affected By Debt, court summons, police charges or bankruptcy.

Most of us are affected by some sort of debt or charge or summons. When you get the letter or form through your letter box you either pay or try to fight it. There is another way that they don't want you to know about. The Expert will sort all your legal problems head on.
So when the letter or charge or bill or summons comes to your letter box, get in touch straight away, and let the Expert deal with them and make them disappear forever.

Legal Fraud.

You have been lied to all of your life.

What you think you know and what is real.

There are two lives running side by side, one is real and one is dead.

But in law the dead one is attached to the real living one.

I have remedy for their recourse in all Legal matters.

The lies stops here.
Set yourself free.

We can help you with banks loans, overdrafts, bank charges, credit cards, payday loans, mortgages, finance, student loans, court and solicitors, parking notices, parking tickets, motoring offences and DVLA offences, government department correspondence, income tax, council tax, CSA, all utilities gas, electric, water providers, TV licensing and more.

Ad ID: 1215015922
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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby Hercule Parrot » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:16 pm

We can help you with that difficult step from belt-tightening to utter ruin
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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby ArthurWankspittle » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:53 am

Hercule Parrot wrote:
We can help you with that difficult step from belt-tightening to utter ruin

Poor credit
CCJs
Bailiff visits
HCEO visits
IVAs
Bankruptcy
Jail
and, our motoring option, seizure and destruction
With our help, you can collect the entire set!
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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby fortinbras » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:35 am

Going back to McRae's website - the one with the big banner about legal name, altho he is talking about UK birth certificates and UK style manuals and UK law - of which I know nearly nothing - this same bullshit has been marketed in the US using American material.

A look at UK birth certificates (using, e.g., Bing images) shows that (in the 20th & 21st centuries) they had a single line for the baby's "name and surname". I must admit this is either clarifying or confusing, but I'll go for clarifying - the baby's personal name (christining name) as well as the family name. I doubt there has been much helpful litigation on this issue on either side of the Atlantic.

In the UK and in the US it was common - not universal - that the personal name was typed or written conventionally, with a capital first letter and then lower case letters, and then the family name was typed in all-capitals or written in block letters to distinguish or clarify it. If it was or wasn't done this way there was no legal result, the choice of upper or lower case did not work any legal alchemy. This has been decided (in the US) in scores of court decisions.

In court papers and other official papers (such as indictments, tax papers, other govt papers) the principal's name (sometimes everybodies' names) is typed in all-capitals. This is evidently both for the sake of clarification and a tradition also for the sake of clarification. Going back a number of centuries we come to a time before word processors, before typewriters, when every document was done by hand with quill pens and scriveners were trained to write in a "civil service hand" or a "chancery hand", so that the handwriting was pretty much the same in all the documents, the style of writing didn't use up too much paper or parchment, and (I hope) writer's cramp was not too brutal. Even so, at the same time the handwriting wasn't that easy to read, especially for people not accustomed to official paperwork, and a great many people of that age could just barely manage block printing and not cursive writing at all. So the names were deliberately put in BLOCK PRINTING to stand out in the documents, make the documents easier to identify and sort, etc. And even when typewriters replaces quills, and when word processors replaced typewriters, this practice of putting people's names in BLOCK LETTERS remained, partly for tradition and partly to help them (a lot of people still have trouble reading) identify the papers.

The point, however, is that, whether this is done or not, the way the name is typed or printed does not work any legal alchemy on the person. As for the suggestion that it somehow turns a person into a corporation, I have had to set up several corporations in my career and it involved a shitload more than pressing the Shift key on my typewriter -- lots of papers back and forth with the state government, lots of papers with the new corporation's board of directors, fees to be paid, etc.

As for McRae's suggestion that one play the Name Game with police, the judge, the tax collector, etc., about either omitting one's surname or denying being the person whose name is typed in such-and-such a way, this does not work. Or rather I should say, this works in ways that were not desired -- jail for contempt of court, fines for frivolous pleading, jail for obstruction of police investigations, etc. Nothing good.

In short, McRae offers suggestions for annoying and antagonizing police, judges and other people that, frankly, it does not pay to rub the wrong way.

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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby Hercule Parrot » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:00 am

fortinbras wrote:In court papers and other official papers (such as indictments, tax papers, other govt papers) the principal's name (sometimes everybodies' names) is typed in all-capitals. This is evidently both for the sake of clarification and a tradition also for the sake of clarification.....


In UK, the criminal justice convention is to use block capitals for the surname, to avoid confusion and ambiguity. You are quite right however, it has no magical legal effect.
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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby notorial dissent » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:25 am

Hercule Parrot wrote:
fortinbras wrote:In court papers and other official papers (such as indictments, tax papers, other govt papers) the principal's name (sometimes everybodies' names) is typed in all-capitals. This is evidently both for the sake of clarification and a tradition also for the sake of clarification.....


In UK, the criminal justice convention is to use block capitals for the surname, to avoid confusion and ambiguity. You are quite right however, it has no magical legal effect.

Could just as easily be done in all lower case and have no legal significance. Convention is that we capitalize proper nouns, but that is all it is, no legal significance one one way or the other.
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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby Siegfried Shrink » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:34 am

Good to write all that out, for the casual reader we do have a tendency to dismiss the name game as nonsense without a full explanation every time.
One peculiarity of British birth certificates is that the form is marked Crown Copyright reserved. This means the blank form is copyright, but the magic gurus say this means the completed birth certificate is some how crown property, meanimg the NAME is crown property. You can see where they would go from there, and they do, of course.

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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby Burnaby49 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:57 am

Siegfried Shrink wrote:Good to write all that out, for the casual reader we do have a tendency to dismiss the name game as nonsense without a full explanation every time.
One peculiarity of British birth certificates is that the form is marked Crown Copyright reserved. This means the blank form is copyright, but the magic gurus say this means the completed birth certificate is some how crown property, meanimg the NAME is crown property. You can see where they would go from there, and they do, of course.


They got that from the US and Canada. Freemen keep claiming that Canadian birth certificates say the same thing which Canadian names are copyrighted by the Crown making us Lizzie's slave. I avoided that trap by getting my birth certificate issued way back before the Crown enslaved us.
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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in Fuck All

Postby fortinbras » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:14 am

In the United States, the US Copyright Office (part of the Library of Congress) has issued a regulation that expressly states that names are not copyrightable. Even without the regulation, to get a copyright that name would have had to appear with a copyright notice from its very first appearance (on the birth certificate) and all subsequent appearances, and the person who could register and own the copyright would be the person who authored the name - presumably one or both of the parents but definitely not the baby. Arguably a name might be protected as a registered trademark (under the Trademark Office, connected to the US Patent Office, part of the Dept of Commerce), but then the name would have to be shown to have been created and exclusively used for business purposes and so forth (and with a TM symbol), so a normal person's normal name couldn't fit the criteria.

Even if, beyond all this, a name were copyrighted, that only applies to the name, but does not 'enslave' a person - who is, after all, able to adopt another name.

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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in F*** All

Postby Famspear » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:00 pm

Under both common law and statutory law, a name cannot generally be the subject of a copyright.

Aside from suffering from numerous other delusions and confusions, the "Freemen," the "Sovereign Citizens," the tax protesters and other assorted Wackadoosters of the World suffer from confusion about the differences between the legal concepts of copyright and trademark. That's only part of their problem.
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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in F*** All

Postby Famspear » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:21 pm

Regarding the comments by fortinbras, here's the regulation he mentioned:

202.1 Material not subject to copyright.

The following are examples of works not subject to copyright and applications for registration of such works cannot be entertained:

(a) Words and short phrases such as names, titles, and slogans; familiar symbols or designs; mere variations of typographic ornamentation, lettering or coloring; mere listing of ingredients or contents;

(b) Ideas, plans, methods, systems, or devices, as distinguished from the particular manner in which they are expressed or described in a writing;

(c) Blank forms, such as time cards, graph paper, account books, diaries, bank checks, scorecards, address books, report forms, order forms and the like, which are designed for recording information and do not in themselves convey information;

(d) Works consisting entirely of information that is common property containing no original authorship, such as, for example: Standard calendars, height and weight charts, tape measures and rulers, schedules of sporting events, and lists or tables taken from public documents or other common sources.

(e) Typeface as typeface.


---37 CFR sec. 202.1 (emphasis added).

See also Opinion Corp. v. Roca Labs, Inc., case no. 15-cv-811-17AEP, U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida (Tampa Division) (Nov. 17, 2016).
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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in F*** All

Postby fortinbras » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:57 pm

A bit of craziness about birth certificates arising in the US, but hopefully not in the UK or Canada or elsewhere, is the notion that a birth certificate is some sort of financial instrument. The usual myth is that, somehow, the US govt, in the midst of the Great Depression, converted everyone who was - or would be - born in the US into some sort of collateral for lenders (vaguely identified as big foreign banks - altho at the time most of them had their own problems with the worldwide depression) and (here's where it gets even weirder) just so all the Americans who had been converted into chattel wouldn't be completely abused, created for each American a super-secret account hidden in the US Dept of Treasury under that American's Soc.Sec. Number, each account now worth an unspecified but fabulous amount (always in the millions of dollars).

A lot of desperate people (hundreds over the last 20 years and it's still happening) actually believe this horse manure, many of them paying their last dollars to mountebanks who told them this nonsense after promising them a way to get out of overwhelming debts. They then sent creditors, even the IRS and courts, checks or other instruments purporting to draw large sums from these imaginary Treasury accounts - and got themselves into much worse trouble.

One of the ways these people were conned was the nature of issuing birth certificates (before 2004). Each state issues its own birth certificates, using its own unique form (the City of New York has its own form, distinct from rest of the state of New York), and over the decades these forms have changed. Early on some of those certificates (e.g., NYC) were the entire medical report of the birth, containing a great deal of personal information about both parents, more recently the certificates are summaries of the medical reports showing little more than the names of the parents and the baby. For aesthetic purposes and to discourage attempts at counterfeiting or alteration many states had their birth certificate forms on paper with a filigree background, much like dollar bills, and for that purpose got their birth certificate forms printed up by the same companies that printed bank checks and stock certificates, such as the American Banknote Company (which additionally prints the currency and postage stamps for several small countries). The mountebanks would point to the tiny print on the birth certificate that said "printed by American Banknote Company" to convince their victims that the birth certificate was somehow a form of money.

Some of this changed in 2004. In that year Congress enacted a law intended to prevent terrorists from counterfeiting or altering American birth certificates by ordering all states henceforth to print their birth certificates on security paper designed to frustrate copying or alterations. One demonstration that this worked was with Barack Obama's birth certificate, a copy which he obtained just before the 2008 election from the Hawaii State Dept of Health (his family had lost the original copy issued in 1961, so he had to obtain a replacement copy). It was printed, in accordance with the 2004 federal law, on security paper - with a green basket-weave background pattern that would jam up photographic efforts and make alterations very conspicuous. And the security paper worked. Photoshop and other ordinary imaging software got anomalous readings from the image of the birth certificate with the green basketweave background - as the security paper was meant to cause. Except the defective detectives who were playing Sherlock assumed the anomalous readings meant that the birth certificate itself was fake (the only problem - they couldn't work up a fake of their own that would produce the same anomalous readings). For those of us who had dealt with this sort of thing, it mean the opposite -- it meant that Obama's birth certificate was the real deal.

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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in F*** All

Postby Burnaby49 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:17 pm

The belief that your birth certificate is an access to riches through a government held trust was the basis of Bernie Yankson's lawsuit against the governments of Canada and British Columbia. It was also the reason he was declared a vexatious litigant;

http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9597

And there have been others.
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Re: Steve McRae - Expert in F*** All

Postby longdog » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:00 pm

If the theory had any sort of logic to it, which of course it doesn't, there would have to be some way of determining what a person's lifetime value was which would be an interesting calculation. If you took a country's GDP, divided it equally amongst the population and then multiplied it by the average working life what would you get?

My back of an envelope figure gives a UK birth-bond as being worth about £1,500,000 but my total income so far (aged 52) would be less than a half of that. Does that mean I'm making a profit or a loss? :shrug: When you take out of that the cost of my health care, education, state benefits and pension I reckon the purchaser of my birth-bond has made a hell of a profit or a hell of a loss... I'm not sure which. :snicker:
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