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You know when the pinned post goes
All mortgages are FRAUD means when we sign on the dotted line the mortgage is paid in full. But the banks record it as a “debt” tricking you into believing they loaned you money. The people are the “creditors” but the name on the BIrth Certificate is not YOURS! It is registered to the bank, is similar written in all caps or last name first in upper and lower case. Irregardless the NAME is how they get us indebted to them. So first off no name no game means either change up your name, do not answer to the name and or let them know that you know the Name is not yours and their first crime against you is “Identity Theft” the second is Fraud.
... That you're in for a hilarious train wreck of a ride. And so it is with these nutters and sovcit interpretation of paying your mortgage, or not.

All the usual crackpots are there trying the same old failed bullshit and getting evicted.
I would be interested to know if anyone has done a reclaim of direct debits on their mortgage payment using the indemnity guarantee scheme... Say if you have paid it off and want some recourse?
Amanda Hi,
> >
> > I need urgent help, but i don't know where to turn.
> > I live at Poole, or i did until 2nd
> > April 2019, when roundabout 8am our peace was shattered by a
> > group of angry foreign men, a foreign woman and a rather
> > tall arrogant English man, professing to be high court
> > bailiffs, with orders to bodily remove us from our home and
> > we have never even had so much as a county court summons.
> >
> > My daughter and her friend were forcibly removed
> > and my mother with Altzeimer's was severeley traumatised.
> > They would not identify themselves properly. Their behaviour
> > was bordering on violent and then it became violent, my
> > dressing gown was ripped off and i was naked. The police
> > were called and i managed to call a friend. It's too
> > upsetting to go into detail at the moment, it's what we
> > have found out since, that's even more frightening.
> >
> > The company who claim we have a mortgage
> > with, are shall we say, a bit suspect as is the alleged
> > court document that on examination makes no sense at all and
> > we have never been any part of any court proceedings. My
> > friend who has been trying to help me has had similar
> > problems with a more reputable company for the last 5 years.
> > He's adamant that this is not genuine court paperwork
> > and it wouldn't be from Queen's Bench anyway. The
> > worrying thing is, we don't beleive that the majority of
> > men and women claiming to be police officers actually were.
> > There were far to many foreign accents for our liking, no
> > one cared about us, only getting us out of our house, my
> > friend was trying to point out that it was forbidden to use
> > violence or force and that they did not have the right
> > documents and that there was no record of a court case
> > anywhere. We checked the official register, nothing. All
> > concerned were just arrogant, rude and dismissive, it was
> > almost like talking to a computer. They could all hear but
> > no one was listening. They were taking our home and that was
> > that.
> >
> > I eventually managed to get partially dressed
> > before the police bodily carried me out in some kind of a
> > sling. Just writing this is very traumatic. I will give all
> > of the details in a formal statement and we also have film.
> > The frightening thing is, we appear to be trapped in some
> > kind of gangster type fraud, we don't know if it's
> > foreign gangs but they left us in no doubt that they
> > didn't care if they were violent or not. We are not a
> > well off family and we are sleeping on different family and
> > friends floors and my poor mother is traumatised.
> >
> > My friend assures me that high court bailiffs
> > would not and could not act this way and that under
> > regulations a risk assessment would have to have been made
> > and there is no way a court would have awarded the home and
> > it's contents to anyone for a debt of £2-3000 let alone
> > our medical conditions and vulnerability. These people were
> > absolute pigs, they just did not care. The people that were
> > supposed to be police actually assissted them and would just
> > not listen, it was awful. My friend and myself have looked
> > into this and we are going to retake our home as is our
> > lawful right, we have nothing else, clothes, accommodation
> > or possessions. The house is now a target and we are not
> > prepared to leave it any longer than we have to. Are the
> > police going to protect us or not?. We do not really want to
> > put an appeal out on facebook and turn it into a circus. The
> > frightening thing is, these characters, whoever they are,
> > are cold hearted violent pigs and i am frightened to death,
> > but i have nowhere to go and no choice and am determined
> > that they are not going to get away with it. My friend feels
> > rather uneasy because the arrogant Englishman insisted that
> > we took his papers but normally on these court frauds you
> > can't get hold of the papers. He's either very
> > stupid or couldn't care less because he is above the
> > law, we've got a feeling he has good reason to believe
> > it's the latter, and i am frightened to death. I have
> > plenty of friends but none of us are as young as we used to
> > be.
> >
> > I wish to make a formal complaint but i just do not
> > know if we have any law left in this country, or police for
> > that matter. It's frightening and we are traumatised,
> > you can't even walk into a police station to talk to
> > anyone, but what choice do we have, we are morally and
> > lawfully in the right and we have a right to full protection
> > under the law. Is anybody going to help us or care?.. There
> > certainly didn't look like there was a shortage of what
> > looked like police vehicles and personel, to unlawfully
> > remove us, what about lawfully supporting us to recover our
> > home and possessions and protecting us from reprisals. We
> > don't know how it came to this, we have done nothing
> > wrong, it's like being in some kind of nightmare.We have
> > plenty of evidence of criminality, but can't find
> > anything that would support what they have done to us, so
> > please accept this email as formal notice of serious crimes
> > against us and a request for help to live peacefully in our
> > own home, which we will lawfully recover on the 4th April,
> > while we still have a home to go to and hopefully some of
> > our possessions will still be there. For God sake help
> > us.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Amanda Terry
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Have fun, it is literally a graveyard of mortgage fraud success (!!! 1!!!)

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That is a rather handy cut out and keep list of our usual suspects. Such stupidity concentrated in one Facebook group. It even outdoes Crabby's!
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There's also a closed group "Void Mortgage Group Litigation Discussion" with some of the usual suspects as admins, including both Michaels and also Saint Tom.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/tgbms
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This is a UK based group brought together of the back from the extensive time, effort, energy and knowledge of Michael O'Deira and Michael O'Bernicia interaction with the Land Registry and Banksters.

They have carved a path and it is now up to us the people to stand together and enforce our rights.
If you come bringing irrelevant information you will be told to cease.
If you are here to random post you will be told to stop it.

The group is to be here for supportive information for all those with issues and share new found facts.

Here is an address to share to promote the group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/tgbms/

So this is a typical post that will not be tolerated.

Neil Warren Ref delete Neil Warren, fuck you too Rhys Jones, and the banana boat you sailed in on (or Viking longship or Norman hoards). What's "private" exactly about a multi-reply-all email that has half the same people on there as on here?

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aesmith wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:23 am There's also a closed group "Void Mortgage Group Litigation Discussion" with some of the usual suspects as admins, including both Michaels and also Saint Tom.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/tgbms
About This Group
Description
This is a UK based group brought together of the back from the extensive time, effort, energy and knowledge of Michael O'Deira and Michael O'Bernicia interaction with the Land Registry and Banksters.

They have carved a path and it is now up to us the people to stand together and enforce our rights.
If you come bringing irrelevant information you will be told to cease.
If you are here to random post you will be told to stop it.

The group is to be here for supportive information for all those with issues and share new found facts.

Here is an address to share to promote the group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/tgbms/

So this is a typical post that will not be tolerated.

Neil Warren Ref delete Neil Warren, fuck you too Rhys Jones, and the banana boat you sailed in on (or Viking longship or Norman hoards). What's "private" exactly about a multi-reply-all email that has half the same people on there as on here?

Group Type
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I do wonder how many of the people in the comments actually own a home. The danger with these groups is when a desperate home owner comes along and takes the advice of these idiots.
As we know the three admins don’t. :haha:
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"Irregardless" :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
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On the DD clawback front it's another "try this, it doesn't work" ..
Rhys Jones You need to know what you are doing, stick to your guns on the phone and don't let them tell you to deal with mortgage co!!
If you get paid, you need to get it out urgently, probably sacrifice your bank account and know what your battle with mortgage co will be as they will want it back!!
Tobe is a star for getting £40k I would not expect that! I had about £12k, they grabbed back £6k and added the rest to my enourmous shortfall
NAT West closed my accounts, so needed to get a new bank. That stopped me from claiming any more of their DDIs. Just give it some thought first first
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aesmith wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:08 pm On the DD clawback front it's another "try this, it doesn't work" ..
Rhys Jones You need to know what you are doing, stick to your guns on the phone and don't let them tell you to deal with mortgage co!!
If you get paid, you need to get it out urgently, probably sacrifice your bank account and know what your battle with mortgage co will be as they will want it back!!
Tobe is a star for getting £40k I would not expect that! I had about £12k, they grabbed back £6k and added the rest to my enourmous shortfall
NAT West closed my accounts, so needed to get a new bank. That stopped me from claiming any more of their DDIs. Just give it some thought first first
If, and I highly doubt it that someone does manage to get something like £40k on a claw back is that not prison sentence worthy?
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I can see how it is anything other than blatant fraud. I can't see "somebody on the internet said it would be OK" is going to be much of an excuse. I suspect the courts would use the "man on the Clapham omnibus" measure of whether or not a reasonable person would think themselves entitled to a free house... I believe the legal expression is "would they fuck as like".
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longdog wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:40 pm I can see how it is anything other than blatant fraud. I can't see "somebody on the internet said it would be OK" is going to be much of an excuse. I suspect the courts would use the "man on the Clapham omnibus" measure of whether or not a reasonable person would think themselves entitled to a free house... I believe the legal expression is "would they fuck as like".
Well, it'll sound good right up until they lose in court and/or get chucked out on their ass. Then they'll have some excuse or other for why their majik incantaton didn't work.
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SteveUK wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:07 am ...
https://m.facebook.com/groups/151216744 ... tn__=C-R

Have fun, it is literally a graveyard of mortgage fraud success (!!! 1!!!)

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Papers declined by the court eh? Possibly because its a load of OPCA crap.
Well i went to court yesterday to drop in some papers which got declined but did find out something useful and that was there was no warrant issued as we knew but also the eviction order has been removed as well so what was all the fucking police and bailiff doing at my house on the 2nd of April, there are alot of covering up going on !!!
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SteveUK wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 6:42 am Papers declined by the court eh? Possibly because its a load of OPCA crap.
Well i went to court yesterday to drop in some papers which got declined but did find out something useful and that was there was no warrant issued as we knew but also the eviction order has been removed as well so what was all the fucking police and bailiff doing at my house on the 2nd of April, there are alot of covering up going on !!!
I suspect this was 'dropping in papers' in the same way as Neelu files her daily cases at the Royal Courts of Justice... Complete and utter drivel based on US law or law that only exists sub-cranially where the little mouse is busy controlling the levers.

As for the non-existent orders... Two possibilities... 1) They do exist but they don't carry a wet ink signature over a three farthing stamp or 2) He's at the wrong court.
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longdog wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 5:05 pm
SteveUK wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 6:42 am Papers declined by the court eh? Possibly because its a load of OPCA crap.
Well i went to court yesterday to drop in some papers which got declined but did find out something useful and that was there was no warrant issued as we knew but also the eviction order has been removed as well so what was all the fucking police and bailiff doing at my house on the 2nd of April, there are alot of covering up going on !!!
I suspect this was 'dropping in papers' in the same way as Neelu files her daily cases at the Royal Courts of Justice... Complete and utter drivel based on US law or law that only exists sub-cranially where the little mouse is busy controlling the levers.

As for the non-existent orders... Two possibilities... 1) They do exist but they don't carry a wet ink signature over a three farthing stamp or 2) He's at the wrong court.
Or they have the wrong case number or they've forgotten their own strawman's name !
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AndyPandy wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 5:10 pm
longdog wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 5:05 pm
SteveUK wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 6:42 am Papers declined by the court eh? Possibly because its a load of OPCA crap.

I suspect this was 'dropping in papers' in the same way as Neelu files her daily cases at the Royal Courts of Justice... Complete and utter drivel based on US law or law that only exists sub-cranially where the little mouse is busy controlling the levers.

As for the non-existent orders... Two possibilities... 1) They do exist but they don't carry a wet ink signature over a three farthing stamp or 2) He's at the wrong court.
Or they have the wrong case number or they've forgotten their own strawman's name !
Apparently she's already out in the cold, trying to get back. Quick, someone call Edward Ellis QC

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longdog wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 5:05 pm As for the non-existent orders... Two possibilities... 1) They do exist but they don't carry a wet ink signature over a three farthing stamp or 2) He's at the wrong court.
Option 3) They have already been carried out therefore filed somewhere / different category / different complaint needed?
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You know, if you really think your mortgage is a fraud, you automatically have the right to cancel the contract. All you have to do is return the money! You no longer owe them, they no longer gave you the money to begin with.
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ArthurWankspittle wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 5:58 am
longdog wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 5:05 pm As for the non-existent orders... Two possibilities... 1) They do exist but they don't carry a wet ink signature over a three farthing stamp or 2) He's at the wrong court.
Option 3) They have already been carried out therefore filed somewhere / different category / different complaint needed?
As the Police were involved it's very likely she's gone to the Magistrates Court, not realising it's not a criminal matter but purely civil dealt with solely by the County Court / High Court.
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She can relax now, Lizzi has the remedy!! 1!!
You could join the www.universallawcommunitytrust.com and get access to your trust and use the credit to fund your liabilities ie rent for another home. However it’s a constitutional trust and funding only for organic food/produce and not supermarkets or big business. I’m sure others know of other ways
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More win!! 1!!

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And another, they're scoring goals left right centre at the moment

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