Prosperity Scam: IUV Exchange, One Peoples Public Trust, Pro

[Jeffrey]

Electronics aren't my strongsuit so this might be wrong. Since it goes motor -> generator -> capacitor -> light bulb

I believe the purpose of the capacitors is to get that effect where the bulbs only light up once the motor reaches a certain speed for dramatic purposes.

[notorial dissent]

Basics, motor runs generator with power off grid, generator generates a certain level of power based on how it is wired and its size(nasty fiddly physics that you can't fudge no matter what mumbo jumbo you pretend to), generator supplies power to bulbs so they burn while this is all going on and charges the high density capacitors, which when the generator shuts/is shut off will then reverse and slowly, or at least they should, release the stored power and still burn the bulbs. The math for all this is pretty straight forward and immutable, again despite the mumbo jumbo touchy feely hokus pokus. I used to be able to do this fairly easily with my books, but they are all in storage and I'm way too lazy to go find them for this nonsense.

For a simpler comparison, your phone and its charger, just cuts out all the middle men so to speak and the bells and whistles, and yes they are distractions from what is really going on. Classic slight of hand, that and a really dumb, unsophisticated audience doesn't hurt the show either. The charger is the motor running the generator, and the battery in your phone is the capacitor analog, and your phone is the light bulb array. You either plug your phone in to the wall to use it, or you charge/keep the battery charged to use it, and the light bulb lights or the phone works. That is really all the scam engine is doing, it is just putting on a much bigger show and a much more low tech way of doing it.

[JamesVincent]

...I think the second woman who hugs the guy, she is wearing a purple top and jeans, is Heather....

Ugh, that's all I got to say about that.

[Jeffrey]

...I think the second woman who hugs the guy, she is wearing a purple top and jeans, is Heather....

Ugh, that's all I got to say about that.

Nah man the chick in purple is Hope

[ArthurWankspittle]

...I think the second woman who hugs the guy, she is wearing a purple top and jeans, is Heather....

Ugh, that's all I got to say about that.

Nah man the chick in purple is Hope

You are correct. I remembered the picture and matched it to the person in the video, but incorrectly remembered the name of the person in the picture as Heather not Hope.

[Alcibiades]

There seem to be two camps in the Moroccan asylum vying for supremacy when it comes to the QEG. On the one hand there are some mechanically-minded folk who have been able to assemble a device which to date consumes much more power than it produces, but who seem convinced that a bit of tinkering will do the trick and deliver a miracle. On the other are those who believe that the thing will only work through some mystical human-machine interaction that will summon up the Cornucopia:

The QEG will simply not work without being "loved" into existence. She holds the space for us to learn how to birth something into the world through organic creativity. She is abundance, her physical representation is a machine. I have been energetically connecting and working with the QEG, I feel now, that it is ourselves who send her the power to manifest abundance. We are all doing this together, it does not matter where you are on earth.

There is probably a majority middle group with a bet each way. Since this free power source is going to light the civilised world in due course, it would be a tenuous business if you have to be in the right frame of mind for it to work. Imagine coming home from the office in a bad mood after a rough day and the QEG picks up the vibe, becomes sullen and refuses to cooperate. A gloomy evening indeed.

[notorial dissent]

But isn't it nice to have a permanently convenient excuse for why it never works, "the vibes are bad"!!!!

Could well turn in to a real internal civil war with the way the group dynamics there work, and considering how small a group it is. The scientifically stupid/deficient against the psychically stupid/deficient.

Or until they can't pay the electric bill they are running up and the local power company shuts them down. I would imagine they are putting as much of a strain on that grid as the rest of them have been on the local computer network.

[morrand]

Electronics aren't my strong suit so this might be wrong. Since it goes motor -> generator -> capacitor -> light bulb

I believe the purpose of the capacitors is to get that effect where the bulbs only light up once the motor reaches a certain speed for dramatic purposes.

If the QEG description can be trusted (and, gee, why couldn't it?), the purpose of the capacitors is to tune the circuit to resonance with the core of the machine. The whole idea is that the machine is brought to resonance, and then it just sort of hums along, generating power from the resonance, with just an occasional push from the wall outlet to keep it going.

This is, of course, total nonsense. Taking energy off a resonating circuit damps the resonance, as you'd expect. This is actually a very useful way of handling resonance when it occurs in real power systems, as the phenomenon called ferroresonance, which is not dissimilar to what is supposed to be happening in the QEG. Ferroresonance, incidentally, is well known in the real power system, and it's not desirable. It destroys lightning arresters, among other things. It certainly does not provide free power.

According to the circuit diagram, the capacitors can't light up the bulbs if the machine is wired up as specified: they are on a totally isolated set of windings, so (assuming that someone's not just out-and-out lying) that shouldn't be a concern. (Anyway, at 0.25 µF total, you're not going to get any kind of delay in lighting the bulbs, or in extinguishing them. The time constant would be way too short to be noticeable.) Too bad. 1 kW in producing 10 kW out is really not all that remarkable: I can do roughly the same thing in my garage, any night of the week.

Ignoring everything else about this device, one thing stands out immediately to my eye, looking at the diagrams. If built as specified, you could never supply a 240 volt load from it. The stator is wound so that current in the 240 V circuit would cancel its own field, so that the rotating part of the machine is irrelevant. No mystery that they'd only run (presumably 120 V) light bulbs off it. (It's also showing an output frequency of 400 Hz. That is...abnormal.) No wonder it needs the good vibes to work, since the electromagnetics certainly aren't in its favor.

[notorial dissent]

It's been way too many years since I played with this stuff, but the wiring diagram bothered me and didn't look right to me when I first looked at it, there seem to be several things wrong with the construction, but I'm not sure what they are at the moment.

If I can catch up to a friend of mine who used to be an AF electronics specialist I'll ask him, this is the sort of thing he would be familiar with.

[LightinDarkness]

So basically, it sounds like this is in fact a technology cargo cult?

Step 1: Make up really detailed and technical looking diagrams and instructions to make a machine that, when assembled, looks very technical. Direct all these materials at an audience that you know is extremely gullible and lacks people with any real sense of technical expertise related to engineering. Sell it as free energy and ask for donations.

Step 2: When nothing works because you have no idea what you are doing and free energy is a myth, claim bad vibes killed it.

Again, I am struck by the genius here from a scammer point of view. They knew they would get people to believe in this because were talking about OPPTers and the new age crowd, whose gullibility is through the roof and whose very belief system ensures almost no one will be skeptical. On top of that you are targeting a group of people who for the most part do not count engineers or anyone with technical training among their ranks, as the scientific education behind such training usually leads them to self-select out of the crazy group.

The parallel between this and prosperity funds/sov'run gibberish is really quite similar then. Just like sov'runs and prosperity gurus lure idiots in with fancy LOOKING paperwork that makes them think they know what they are talking about, Hope Girl and her dad are luring in the idiots with fancy technology which, while it doesn't do anything, sure puts on a good show.

[notorial dissent]

So basically, it sounds like this is in fact a technology cargo cult?

Pretty much, just a dressed up snake oil scam.

Buried in the diagrams there actually is a real device, it just happens to be a jumped up battery charger, once you get past the errors and either obvious or unintentional errors. The trick is to bury the actual device in a bunch of extra wires and connections and lights or things like that if you're feeling fancy. The spark gap is a nice piece of misdirection. They missed a good bit by not dressing the device up more, but considering the crowd they are dealing with, they didn't need much to mislead them. The gotta have good vibes to get it to run is a nice touch and particularly considering the audience they're playing to. The mark of a good con is that they tailor their con to the people they're planning on taking and with this crowd they found the ideal gullible audience. They'll believe almost anything as long as it is outlandish and new agey enough. They're also naive/stupid enough that they none of them would look at anything either closely or have a clue to begin with. The mode and method is as you say, pretty much identical.

[LightinDarkness]

How right you are notorial, especially about dressing this up for the right group...and they are eating this thing up. See this latest comment from D, who as you may recall is sort of the Moses to OPPT's goddess Heather:

When people are working with the QEG it is their own resonance and frequencies that are interacting with it. We are Fuckin' Beacons of Light and don't need to be "tuned" or to "set our frequencies" or to "raise our frequencies" or to BE anything other than we already BE. We BE PERFECT. Just the same, the QEG IS what it BE.

Indeed, D, indeed. D BE smoking some of that good stuff from Brian, probably, and then they probably be DOing each other. Is that crude of me to say?

[Alcibiades]

Some of you may be wondering what Heather, the enigmatic founder of the feast, looks like. For those who may have missed it, this revealing portrait was posted a while ago on one of the OPPTer's photography site.



I will refrain from any further commentary.

[Jeffrey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpAxk1Zddsg

Found this gem while going over old OPPT tapes. Around minute 20, Hope Girls aka Hope Moore is mentioned as far back as February 2013 back when they were doing the courtesy notice thing.

Seems to suggest long term collaboration between the QEG scam and OPPT.

[LightinDarkness]

Well folks, the first excuse for the delay on the QEG scam is in - its because they are in Morocco which is undeveloped and causes all sorts of problems.

So, circumstances have caused considerable delays, expenditures and disinformation regarding our project here. Nonetheless, we are committed to seeing this through and dedicated to our goal. So many wonderful people have come together to make this happen, and we are in great spirits due to the glorious support we have from The People, despite the problems. Work here will continue on the QEG for the next one to two weeks… or until it is complete. Jamie and some of the engineers are remaining here in Morocco to do this. As for myself and my mother Valerie, we are leaving Morocco to go where we can have the reliable internet access we need to catch up on the rest of the work around the QEG and Fix The World.

http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2014/05/ho ... build.html

Whats so hilarious about this is THEY CHOSE TO BUILD THIS (FAKE) FREE ENERGY MACHINE IN MOROCCO. Nothing AT ALL required them to do this, since the entire scam is being run by Hope Girl's dad - they could have done this anywhere in the world with the $50k they've raised from the idiots on their gofundme type shills for donations.

Yet, I am sure, the True Believers will simply accept this excuse and continue to wait for free energy which will never come.

[DailyPlanet]

What it’s like to try to build a Free Energy Device in an Underdeveloped Country
> http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/ ... d-country/
("free energy device"? / or a 'failed experiment'?

The time for tolerance on the execution of this project is nearly over IMHO)

We have been in an area in Morocco –an underdeveloped country – building a Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) with at least 30 engineers, and a total of about 70 people from over 20 different countries. What we are doing here is a humanitarian project: to build a generator that will run a well and provide water to 300 poor people of this village. The excitement of opensourcing the QEG, and our open invitation to anyone who wanted to come join us, brought in a lot of amazing people with broad backgrounds and great forward-thinking ideas. Still, our goal remains the same; to help the people in this village.

30 engineers? 70 people? - What's all this?

Was there no attempt to PLAN anything? What a mess!

Problems:
+ No internet
+ Local communications problems
+ No basic supply industry (90% of parts had to be brought here... we bought plane tickets)
+ Physical comfort (most people slept on mats)
+ The villagers (poor, with few skills; only 50% have electricity)
"As for myself and my mother Valerie, we are leaving Morocco to go where we can have the reliable internet access we need to catch up on the rest of the work around the QEG and Fix The World."
(haha ! They have failed in Morrocco -so far- and are seeking success elsewhere.
How very predictable this is! Hopegirl must be thinking: "How can I stay in a place without a hair dryer?")

[LightinDarkness]

Hope Girl is flown to London (what is that, Morocco to London, probably at leat $1k) plus someone paid for a fancy presentation space ($4k according to her blog) in order to present to an audience of about 50 True Believers concerning the QEG:
http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/ ... in-london/

Yet again, this proves: there is money to be made in scamming - and free international travel!

Scamming your followers on the promise of free energy: $70k (at least, by the time you combine donations + free travel + the fact that she appears to be getting free food and lodging for her, her mom, and her dad).
Watching the crackpots throw their money at this scam: Priceless

[Jeffrey]

How is there no law that these people have broken that they can be thrown in jail for?

They're using a poverty stricken village to enrich themselves by lying about a free energy machine, this is one of the most disgusting scams possible.

[thunter]

"How is there no law that these people have broken that they can be thrown in jail for?"

There are laws. But the Internet has created so many scammers that there is no law enforcement agency with the manpower to track them all down, much less spend years of endless court delays trying to prosecute them.

[ArthurWankspittle]

How is there no law that these people have broken that they can be thrown in jail for?

They're using a poverty stricken village to enrich themselves by lying about a free energy machine, this is one of the most disgusting scams possible.

I don't know Morocco but suspect it is a better off third world country. The locals will be happy to have stupid foreigners there paying 3-5 times the usual rate for everything, so long as they keep paying and don't do something to upset the local populace and big-wigs. Ditto, someone is no doubt doing well supplying all the shit they are smoking. Internet not going too quick? Electricity going off? Was the mayor having a party that night? That's how it works in these sort of places. Keep spending the dollars and the locals will be OK. Stop spending and start complaining and you'll be in big trouble very quickly.