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Re: Looking for Proof

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POOF, GHOST, CASPER, ALICE, and the WIZARD OF OZ

Posted By: Wradar <Send E-Mail>
Date: Wednesday, 9-Dec-2009 21:13:09 It's really disturbing to me - after a 5 year absence as a news agent of RMN - to return to a forum readership who obviously are more concerned about total fantasy (judged by subject hit counts) rather than alternative news reality.

In case any reader thinks I'm speaking against the "prosperity" or "Farm" investment programs, I was (and I guess still am) a fully committed investor. I was so committed that I had to declare bankruptcy because I invested all my life savings and my family farm into those "Christian" contractual pledges promising 50-100% returns in only a few years.

Don't ANYONE dare lecture me until you've walked my path - and lived in a roach infested 19' used Nomad camper trailer with young children in a cow pasture without electric or water as I and my family have - as a direct result of those alphabet agent thieves, banksters, and charlatans who stole our third generation farm from us...

And I truly consider we were extremely fortunate compared to so many others we knew.

For those who remember the not-so-distant past here on RMN, this site was the top 3 of alternative NEWS sources right up there with the best of the best in 2001.

What is RMN now? It's apparently the premier site for SOAP OPERA and Oprah style "whoo-aah" postings of anonymous mis and dis information shrills who promise prosperity and equality for all, but who have NEVER delivered ANYONE what their empty words have promised. That's what a shrill is by any name.

Rayelan created this internet site to bring reality to the internet... to bring the alternative news "rumors" of the non-government controlled media to light so that the entire world could read (and surely DID read) what the mainstream media dared not speak about.

That was Rayelan's mission and it still is. The courageous military men in Rayelan's life knew the truth and Raye has always had the heartfelt mission to speak out for them... and she still does.

The majority of the seasoned, yet still active, "agents" of RMN have become dormant. I've had many emails from them since I returned a month or so ago telling me to walk softly and that "RMN isn't what it used to be". I have to agree - but only on the surface.

From outward appearance, this is no longer the RMN Rayelan put her heart and soul into founding. It's outwardly become an internet gossip site like so many of the other fantasy internet sites.

This is why the still active and well seasoned RMN NEWS agents need to come out of their slumber and start posting alternative news again.

RMN used to be THE place for subjective media news. At this time, it's more important now that this be brought to the forefront.

I speak for many seasoned "old timer" RMN News Agents when I say the era of Casper, Ghost, the Wizard, or whatever "seer" over the past few years is no match for the hard-hitting alternative news we RMN News Agents can and WILL, from now on, offer to RMN readers.

If you're looking for cotton candy, I think you need to read elsewhere from now on. If you're looking for hard hitting alternative media news, then just watch RMN from now on.

I have faith in my fellow RMN News Agents that we can and WILL bring to you the uncensored news that was the foundation of this internet site.

RMN will become better than ever if my faith in fellow RMN news agents is correct...

This generated responses, some of which I repost here:

Reader Joan: Wants "hard" News and Links... No More Gossip...

Posted By: Wradar <Send E-Mail>
Date: Wednesday, 9-Dec-2009 22:02:31

In Response To: POOF, GHOST, CASPER, ALICE, and the WIZARD OF OZ (Wradar) Thanks Joan. I want to see the hard links and read the true alternative non-MSM news just as you do. RMN agents still have "it"... it's just that some have forgotten and fallen into a temporary slumber... and need to wake up and do what they - above any other alternative news site - do the best :-)

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Hi Wradar:

I say Bravo for your comments about RMN! I started to read RMN a couple of years ago. Occasionally, I find a good article,
quite often about health issues. However, my main interest in perusing RMN was to obtain articles which MSM doesn't print.

I am not involved in any way with "deliveries of packages". I was interested in the fact that the deserving got justice. I stopped reading the articles written by the above listed folks. As you wrote, their postings are are fairy tales, and if the "dark hats" are posting these writings, my question would be, how are they benefiting from posting Poof, Ghost, Casper etc? One usually has to follow the money trail for explanations, but I don't see how that works here.

I then stopped reading most of the RMN stories, as you say,
RMN comes off like gossip, silly speculations about what ifs.

Where's the "hard" news and links to support it? That pops up only occasionally.

Can't the gossipy stuff be edited out?

Cheers, and good luck, Joan


SO YOU ARE LAWGIVER? STARTING THE SAME OLD CRAP AS ALWAYS?????

Posted By: Freedom4ever <Send E-Mail>
Date: Thursday, 10-Dec-2009 00:43:14

In Response To: POOF, GHOST, CASPER, ALICE, and the WIZARD OF OZ (Wradar) Didn't take you long...I didn't even catch on till I began reading your instigation postings. Which so called old time agents e-mailed you? If they are so chicken that they can't come out and say who they are maybe they should stay in the shadows? Because if they aren't willing to stand up for what they believe then maybe they don't stand for anything at all? Or maybe you are making all of this up?

Did you buy Rumormills news out or something to be making all these claims out of the blue? Because since I have been posting here I have never ONCE been censored or been asleep or forgotten one damn thing, including you starting trouble.

I think you wrote with one of your beginning posts recently that it was SOMEONE ELSE who did all that, NOT you!!!!!

Look like that was a line of hog wash because here you are instigating things all over again.

Bonnie


A REALLY ANGRY RAYELAN REPLIES - AND GETS ANGRIER THE MORE I READ

Posted By: Rayelan <Send E-Mail>
Date: Thursday, 10-Dec-2009 03:47:53

In Response To: POOF, GHOST, CASPER, ALICE, and the WIZARD OF OZ (Wradar) : It's really disturbing to me - after a 5 year absence as a
: news agent of RMN - to return to a forum readership who
: obviously are more concerned about total fantasy (judged by
: subject hit counts) rather than alternative news reality.

IN THE FIVE YEARS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN GONE, OUR HITS HAVE SKYROCKETED -- WE HAVE GONE FROM A LITTLE OVER 5 MILLION HITS A MONTH TO OVER 40 MILLION ON ALL OF OUR SITES... RADIO INCLUDED.

WE USED TO HAVE 1900 DAILY READERS. THAT NUMBER STAYED FIXED FOR YEARS. NOW WE HAVE APPROXIMATLY 28,000 DAILY READERS WITH A MONTHLY AVERAGE OF ALMOST 900,000. WHEN YOU ADD IN THE RADIO PAGE AND THE PODCASTING PAGE, IT TAKES US OVER A MILLION UNIQUE VISITORS EVERY MONTH.

IF WE WERE SUCH A FANTASY PAGE, WHY HAVE WE GROWN SO HUGE IN SUCH A SHORT TIME. MOST OF THE GROWTH HAS COME IN THE LAST YEAR.

IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THAT IS POSTED HERE ON RMN... YOU WILL SEE THAT NOT ONLY HAVE WE NOT CHANGED ONE IOTA... WE HAVE ADDED DIMENSIONS THAT WE NEVER HAD BEFORE!!

IN MY OPINION RUMOR MILL IS BETTER THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN. COMBINE THAT WITH THE RADIO AND I WILL PUT US UP AGAINST ANY ALTERNATIVE NEWS SITE.

IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE US WITH NEWS WITH VIEWS... YOU WILL SEE THAT WE COVER AS MANY TOPICS AS THEY DO... WE COVER IT FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE BECAUSE WE SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY AT RMN.

WE DO NOT COVER JUST POLITICS. WE CHOOSE TO COVER EVERY ASPECT OF THE HUMAN CONDITION. THAT IS ONE OF THE GIVENS ABOUT RMN... IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU WERE AND AGENT BEFORE... DIDN'T YOU NOTICE THE YEARS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT NESARA AND DOVE... TIL I HAD TO BAN DOVE'S MATERIAL BECAUSE OF ALL THE FIGHTS... THERE WERE SO MANY FIGHTS OVER DOVE'S MATERIAL THAT NO ONE READ ANY OF THE GOOD ARTICLES... THEY JUST HOPPED IN ON THE FLAME WAR.

UNLIKE YOU... I HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT POOF WRITES ABOUT ARE TRUE. HIS INFO HAS BEEN CHECKED OUT BY FRIENDS WHO STILL HAVE CONTACTS IN HIGH PLACES... AND MOST OF THE TIME THEY KNEW OF SOMETHING THAT MATCHED HIS STORY.

YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING THAT POOF AND DOVE WERE SAYING... I JUST DIDN'T ISSUE DAILY PROCLAMATIONS ON IT BECAUSE I KNEW THAT NOTHING WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE UNTIL THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM IS DEAD AND GONE... THEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT MANY OF US HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS WILL TAKE PLACE.

I BELIEVE THAT POOF... IS TELLING AS MUCH AS HE CAN... AND GIVING PEOPLE HOPE THAT THINGS REALLY ARE GOING TO CHANGE. IF MY SOURCES ARE RIGHT... THE CHANGE SHOULD COME RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

IF YOU THINK CASPER AND POOF HAVE CAUSED OUR QUALITY TO GO DOWN... THEN YOU DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE YEARS THAT I POSTED DOVE.

WHY DIDN'T YOU ATTACK ME AND RMN THEN. WHEN YOU ATTACK RMN YOU KNOW YOU ARE ATTACKING ME... YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT I AM RUNNING A SLOPPY SHIP.

IS THAT WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT?

YOU CAME BACK SAYING THAT MICHAEL ST CLAIR STOLE YOUR ID AND MADE ALL THOSE NASTY POSTS THAT MADE YOU RESIGN... AND THEN... MICHAEL ST CLAIR... USING YOUR ID ASKED US TO TAKE MICHAEL ST CLAIR BACK AGAIN.

WE'VE HAD TROUBLE MAKERS ON RMN IN THE PAST... AND YOU SURE LOOK LIKE YOU ARE ONE OF THEM COME BACK TO HAUNT US.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHO YOU ARE. YOU SAY YOU ARE THE SAME PERSON WHO USED TO BE LAWGIVER1... BUT LOOK AT THIS POST YOU HAVE PUT UP TONIGHT.

THIS IS NOT WAS A FRIEND DOES. IF YOU WANTED TO POINT OUT THESE THINGS TO US... YOU WOULD HAVE POSTED THIS IN THE LOUNGE.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT THE ARTICLES THAT ARE AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE AT THIS MOMENT.

NEW: OBAMA, PELOSI, HILLARY AND THE REPUBLIC: CONNECTING THE DOTS (Part 1 of 3) BIDEN THE WHITE KNIGHT
Rayelan -- Thursday, 10-Dec-2009 03:13:54

# NEW: Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after 'Danish text' leak (views: 163)
Guarded_Optimist -- Thursday, 10-Dec-2009 00:58:39

# NEW: Socialist Countries 'Demand' Trillions In “Climate Debt” (views: 153)
Susoni -- Thursday, 10-Dec-2009 00:06:30

THESE ARTICLES ARE AS GOOD AS ANYTHING YOU ARE GOING TO GET ON THE INTERNET

POINT OUT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU THINK IS BENEATH YOU

IS IT THE CASPER AND POOF POSTS.

WE WENT ROUND AND ROUND OVER DOVE... I WILL NOT HAVE ANYONE TELLING ME WHAT MY AGENTS CAN POST AND WHAT THEY CAN'T.
EACH AGENT... EVEN YOU... FOR AS LONG AS YOU REMAIN AN AGENT... HAVE THE RIGHT TO POST ANYTHING YOU WANT... WE DO NOT CENSOR... BUT WE CAN DISAGREE.

WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS... I FRANKLY THINK YOU HAVE BEEN SENT IN TO DISRUPT US.

WHAT DO THE REST OF OUR READERS AND AGENTS THINK?

WE ARE A FAMILY HERE... AND FRANKLY MOST OF US LIKE THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING!!!!

: In case any reader thinks I'm speaking against the
: "prosperity" or "Farm" investment
: programs, I was (and I guess still am) a fully committed
: investor. I was so committed that I had to declare
: bankruptcy because I invested all my life savings and my
: family farm into those "Christian" contractual
: pledges promising 50-100% returns in only a few years.

: Don't ANYONE dare lecture me until you've walked my path - and
: lived in a roach infested 19' used Nomad camper trailer
: with young children in a cow pasture without electric or
: water as I and my family have - as a direct result of those
: alphabet agent thieves, banksters, and charlatans who stole
: our third generation farm from us...

: And I truly consider we were extremely fortunate compared to
: so many others we knew.

: For those who remember the not-so-distant past here on RMN,
: this site was the top 3 of alternative NEWS sources right
: up there with the best of the best in 2001.

YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO SAYS THAT RMN IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE... IT IS FAR MORE THAN IT USED TO ME... AND I HAVE TO ASK YOU WHAT ARE YOU DRINKING THAT MAKES YOU COMPARE US TO OPRAH... THAT'S JUST PLAIN NUTS.

: What is RMN now? It's apparently the premier site for SOAP
: OPERA and Oprah style "whoo-aah" postings of
: anonymous mis and dis information shrills who promise
: prosperity and equality for all, but who have NEVER
: delivered ANYONE what their empty words have promised.
: That's what a shrill is by any name.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LOWER YOURSELF -- i CAN DO AWAY WITH YOUR USER NAME IN ONE EASY MOVE.

: Rayelan created this internet site to bring reality to the
: internet... to bring the alternative news
: "rumors" of the non-government controlled media
: to light so that the entire world could read (and surely
: DID read) what the mainstream media dared not speak about.

THAT WAS WHY I CREATED IT AND IT IS STILL DOING ITS MISSION VERY WELL. EVIDENTLY YOU HAVE NOT TAKEN THE TIME TO READ THE ARTICLES THAT WILL PROVE THIS TO YOU.

: That was Rayelan's mission and it still is. The courageous
: military men in Rayelan's life knew the truth and Raye has
: always had the heartfelt mission to speak out for them...
: and she still does.

I STILL DO... THE RADIO SHOW GIVES ME THE ROOM TO TELL MANY PEOPLE'S STORIES... I CAN GIVE SO MUCH MORE INFORMATION OUT OVER THE RADIO THAN I CAN HERE ON RMN... IT TAKES TIME TO WRITE STORIES... AND FORMAT THEM CORRECTLY... I DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ON THE RADIO... I JUST TELL IT LIKE IT IS...

: The majority of the seasoned, yet still active,
: "agents" of RMN have become dormant. I've had
: many emails from them since I returned a month or so ago
: telling me to walk softly and that "RMN isn't what it
: used to be". I have to agree - but only on the
: surface.

SOME AGENTS ARE ON SABATTICAL. IT'S HARD DOING THIS DAY IN AND DAY OUT WITH NO PAY. YES WE HAVE LOST SOME OF OUR GOOD ONES. I STILL COMMUNICATE WITH THEM AND SOME WILL SOON BE ON THE RADIO AGAIN.

SOME HAVE HEADED FOR THE HILLS AND ARE TAKING CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. THEY HAVE SAID EVERYTHING THAT THEY COULD SAY... SO THEY'VE LEFT THE STAGE.

: From outward appearance, this is no longer the RMN Rayelan put
: her heart and soul into founding. It's outwardly become an
: internet gossip site like so many of the other fantasy
: internet sites.

WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING THAT YOU WOULD SAY SUCH A THING. RMN HAS BECOME MORE OF WHAT I WANTED IT TO BE THAN I COULD EVER HAVE IMAGINED. IT IS TRULY A MAGICAL PLACE... MAYBE YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS CHANGED. WITH ALL THAT YOU TELL US YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH.

: This is why the still active and well seasoned RMN NEWS agents
: need to come out of their slumber and start posting
: alternative news again.

AFTER THE WAY YOU HAVE INSULTED EVERYONE WHO HAS HUNG IN HERE... WHO DO YOU PROPOSE TO BRING BACK TO FILL THE SPACES OF THE ONES WHO ARE SO ANGRY WITH YOU THAT THEY SIMPLY LEAVE!!

: RMN used to be THE place for subjective media news. At this
: time, it's more important now that this be brought to the
: forefront.

BULL -- YOU ARE ONLY REMEMBERING WHAT YOU WANT TO REMEMBER. WE HAVE OUR UPS AND DOWNS... AND THE CYCLE CONTINUES YEAR AFTER YEAR... OUR FOCUS IS ALWAYS THE SAME... EXPOSING THE LIE... AND KEEPING US INFORMED HEALTHWISE.

: I speak for many seasoned "old timer" RMN News
: Agents when I say the era of Casper, Ghost, the Wizard, or
: whatever "seer" over the past few years is no
: match for the hard-hitting alternative news we RMN News
: Agents can and WILL, from now on, offer to RMN readers.

I SAY YOU SPEAK FOR YOURSELF... AND FRANKLY I DON'T LIKE THE WAY YOU SPEAK ANYMORE... AS I SAID... I THINK YOU ARE EITHER A GOVT OP... AND DON'T GIVE ME YOUR HARD LUCK STORY... I DON'T KNOW YOU... I HAVE NO IDEA IF YOU ARE LAWGIVER1 OR IF YOU ARE MICHAEL ST CLAIR ... OR IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WRITES THE BOOKS FOR MICHAEL ST CLAIR AND THAT PERSON WROTE THIS TO CAUSE CHAOS.

: If you're looking for cotton candy, I think you need to read
: elsewhere from now on. If you're looking for hard hitting
: alternative media news, then just watch RMN from now on.

AND I THINK YOU NEED TO POST ELSEWHERE FROM NOW ON... AFTER CONINTUING TO READ THIS... I HAD DECIDED TO PULL YOUR PLUG... YOU ARE NOT SOMEONE WHO IS LOOKING OUT FOR ME OR RMN... YOU ARE AN OPERATIVE... AND I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY IF YOU ARE MICHAEL EDWARD. YOU ARE PROBABLY SOMEONE MICHAEL ST CLAIR SENT IN TO DO JUST WHAT YOU ARE DOING... TRASHING US IN OUR OWN LIVING ROOM. NO GENTLEMAN WOULD HAVE WRITTEN WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN.

: I have faith in my fellow RMN News Agents that we can and WILL
: bring to you the uncensored news that was the foundation of
: this internet site.

: RMN will become better than ever if my faith in fellow RMN
: news agents is correct...

I GUESS WE WILL HAVE TO DO IT WITHOUT YOUR HELP!

A VERY ANGRY RAYELAN WHO REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH CRAP LIKE THIS POSTED IN MY LIVING ROOM.
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Re: Looking for Proof

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Casper has a plan "B":

PS: Of course..there is ALWAYS "PLAN B" which will "Rattle a Few Cages..."
PLAN B = 336,000 participants/members/investors decide that they want to Pick Up the Packs that are rightfully theirs. Just Imagine.... 336,000 +/- people GOING TO D.C. and DEMANDING WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY THEIRS.

Sure Casper, go for it. Bring on as many people as you want let them see the lack of Royalty and Chinamen and spacemen in DC and,instead, hundreds of confused GS-9s saying "You want what?!
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Re: Looking for Proof

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CASPER UPDATE #1: DECEMBER 13, 2009
casper 12-13-09 #1

WE were asked to hold our fire the last few days and did so as we perceived it to be in everyone's best interest.

WE think it would also be in everyone's best interest if we continued to point out OBAMA'S ongoing appointments of Idiots, Clowns, Communist and Perverts to the highest offices in the land, but there are other fish to fry tonight.

Picking up where we last left off, after the Japanese Prime Minister was caught the Chief Justice of the World Court, also Japanese, was caught sabotaging deliveries and working for OBAMA in return for huge promised pay-offs. After that the Ming who were in D.C. to facilitate completion were also caught working for and following the instructions of OBAMA. They were replaced by higher level Ming who came in Wednesday night and packs were again ordered out only to be (confiscated)* by HLS on OBAMAS orders and they were returned to D.C.. Thursday mid day the Japanese EMPEROR arrived in the U.S. to help the newly arrived Ming saying Japan's corrupt representatives had stood in the way of deliveries far too long and for the sake of the American and Japanese people he is here to help bring this to a successful conclusion.

Meanwhile, from Air Force One or Norway OBAMA orders Treasury, which by then was in possession of the packs, to remove certain items and to destroy the packs. He would not provide them with written orders, only verbal. Treasury responded saying "we are not going to jail for you, if you want this done come and do it yourself". Thursday night there were ongoing problems but overnight Thursday and Friday morning JAG stepped in and helped retrieve the packs from Treasury legally and without confrontation.

Now it turns out that the newly arrived Ming are also working for Obama. Friday, Saturday and Sunday they claimed the packs had gone out for delivery only to be confiscated* by Homeland Security. What was actually happening was that the packs were being handed over to HLS by the newly arrived Ming. It appears, at least for now, that the Japanese Emperor knew nothing of this and was not involved. It was the Ming in D.C. who were to provide the money to bribe the Japanese Prime Minister and the Japanese head of The World Court. They were also to provide OBAMA a huge sum of money.

Today JAG offered up a "guaranteed promise" of deliveries today saying WE THE PEOPLE have a right to our packages and if not delivered today they would turn them over to the people themselves. They LIED. At 6:30 p.m. EST the packs were still in Treasury.

"FRIENDS" working in D.C. have been helping us and providing vital Intel for a long time. They were told tonight that if they speak to us again they will lose not only their jobs but all their benefits including retirement benefits as well. The message was delivered to them by OBAMA'S EMISSARIES. They were trying to help us obtain that which is legally ours.

Today OBAMA continues his rant saying no program will ever be allowed to pay. It will be stopped, says he, no matter what it takes. Very high level attorneys are saying tonight that it would be illegal to fire anyone for trying to help people, as if that would matter to Obama. Here we have still another example of the lawless, traitorous, snake like behavior of Obama.

WE are informed the packs left D.C. around 7 p.m. on orders of The Japanese Emperor, overseas Ming and overseas Families.
Given all that is going on we do not know whether they will be delivered or not.

casper 12-13-09

PS: Of course..there is ALWAYS "PLAN B" which will "Rattle a Few Cages..."
PLAN B = 336,000 participants/members/investors decide that they want to Pick Up the Packs that are rightfully theirs. Just Imagine.... 336,000 +/- people GOING TO D.C. and DEMANDING WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY THEIRS.
"Follow the Money"