Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby texino » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:27 am

Bellringer's site reports the death of The DOO but it is only a copy/paste of the info from the Dove site with no follow up or statement from PHB. I can't help but remember Dove claiming that she was under super secret protection and could not be harmed. She backed this up by telling stories about people trying to run her off the road but not being able to steer their cars in her direction. While I would not expect to read an obit saying Ms. Goodwin died after a 10 day battle with the creator of the Universe, I would expect something along the lines of dying after a brief illness. At any rate I think your death has to be posted in the local paper of record so your creditors can have a shot at your estate. OH well, we have some sharp people on the job and I expect we will hear something soon.
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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby texino » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:08 pm

Me again. Checking with SSA death index (current to 6/13) shows three Goodwins dying in WA in 2010 and the only female had a dob of 1962.
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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby fortinbras » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:09 pm

The SSDI (Soc.Sec. Death Index) is not a comprehensive source. It may be reliable for the deaths that it does report but it is not a comprehensive list of deaths. For example, it often misses the deaths of people who did not leave any sort of SS benefit for survivors to claim, people whose identity (or at least their SSN) was unknown, etc. This was stated by a federal court a few years back when the FBI was dragging its feet on a FOIA request, claiming that it couldn't prove that all the people mentioned in files about 60 years old were now dead - using only the SSDI as its resource.

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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby Gregg » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:27 pm

texino wrote:Me again. Checking with SSA death index (current to 6/13) shows three Goodwins dying in WA in 2010 and the only female had a dob of 1962.


Umm, 1962 is at least in the ball park, and for some reason I would not be surprised to find Ole Dove was drawing SSI for some disability even as she ranted against the Government and the IRS
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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby fortinbras » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:37 am

I emailed the Tacoma Washington News-Tribune about this rumor, inasmuch as it had carried a number of articles about her over the years. They were unaware of this rumor and told me they will look into it.

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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby wyrdabounds » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:26 am

Shaini, or Dove, is dead. It's not a scam--she's dead. Now that she's passed, I've started reading about this part of this person I've known all my life. I won't begin to correct the errors that I've read so far--it's tedious and ultimately really doesn't matter now. Why would I know this? I'm her sister.

I don't much care about the mythology of Nesara or Omega or the rest of it (and I love to study mythology because it holds much information about the way humans experience and relate to the world and the divine). I believe that people will pay folks to tell them what they want to hear and it's their choice to open their wallets for whatever reason to support whom they wish.

Shaini didn't live a high life--far from it. Seems she'd have done better as a televangelist--I didn't see where what she did was a whole lot different, other than that particular cow being a bit more sacred than the one she had.

She was not a horrible person nor was she a saint. She was just a human being.

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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby ashlynne39 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:05 am

wyrdabounds wrote:Shaini, or Dove, is dead. It's not a scam--she's dead. Now that she's passed, I've started reading about this part of this person I've known all my life. I won't begin to correct the errors that I've read so far--it's tedious and ultimately really doesn't matter now. Why would I know this? I'm her sister.

I don't much care about the mythology of Nesara or Omega or the rest of it (and I love to study mythology because it holds much information about the way humans experience and relate to the world and the divine). I believe that people will pay folks to tell them what they want to hear and it's their choice to open their wallets for whatever reason to support whom they wish.

Shaini didn't live a high life--far from it. Seems she'd have done better as a televangelist--I didn't see where what she did was a whole lot different, other than that particular cow being a bit more sacred than the one she had.

She was not a horrible person nor was she a saint. She was just a human being.



Since you seem to have inside info, perhaps you could post a link to the obituary or to the funeral home that handled the funeral. Perhaps she is gone but its odd that there's no independent reference online to her death.

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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby wyrdabounds » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:13 am

Heritage Cremation Services, 800-398-7101. I've watched for a death notice as well though have no idea where it might have been sent or if it was sent. No obit was written for the papers.

Death Certificate #2010-005402.

Hope that's good enough for ya, snarky.

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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby ashlynne39 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:15 am

wyrdabounds wrote:Heritage Cremation Services, 800-398-7101. I've watched for a death notice as well though have no idea where it might have been sent or if it was sent. No obit was written for the papers.

Death Certificate #2010-005402.

Hope that's good enough for ya, snarky.


Well as long as I'm being snarky . . . . thanks for info that really says nothing. To clarify Heritage Cremation Services is nationwide according to google so no way to verify there as I might with a funeral home by looking at their online list of services. And not sure what to do with a death certficate number. Surely someone who has that sort of information could post a copy or perhaps info about the when and where of the funeral. I'm realizing right now that sounds a bit cold and for anyone else I might consider it so but for a scam artist who participated in scams of this magnitude I'm not feeling particularly empathetic.

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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby fortinbras » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:41 am

I will say that it seems unusual (but not completely unique -- as in the case of L. Ron Hubbard) for a cult leader to permanently leave this dimension without some sort of funeral or memorial event being announced.

There is a Heritage Cremation Services branch in Marysville, WA, and I will try later in the day (considering Pacific zone time) to verify this with them.

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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby fortinbras » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:14 pm

I have verified it by phoning Heritage Cremation Services in Marysville, Washington.

Yes, Shaini Goodwin is dead. All they were able, under the privacy laws, to tell me is
(1) She died on May 30th, and
(2) The person who ordered the cremation was her sister, Camille Wynn, also of Washington but they would not tell me the specific city.
No other details.

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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby Demosthenes » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:47 pm

I believe that people will pay folks to tell them what they want to hear and it's their choice to open their wallets for whatever reason to support whom they wish.


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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby Pottapaug1938 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:57 pm

Demosthenes wrote:
I believe that people will pay folks to tell them what they want to hear and it's their choice to open their wallets for whatever reason to support whom they wish.


Ew.


I wonder how long it will be before some clown starts posting "spiritual messages", or something like that, from the Dove of Oneness, speaking from her Ascended Plane (or whatever Higher Dimension she now inhabits). And, to see her, all we'll have to do is face Arcturus and wave....
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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby Deep Knight » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:32 pm

Demosthenes wrote:
I believe that people will pay folks to tell them what they want to hear and it's their choice to open their wallets for whatever reason to support whom they wish.


Ew.


wyrdabounds, I am genuinely sorry for your family's loss. My family includes "all kinds," but they're still family and I look out for them. I'm sure it was the same with you.

We've had a lot of fun here at Dove's expense over the years here, but I for one don't do this to have fun, I do it to prevent people from getting scammed over the internet. Yes, people have a choice, but they are making that choice based on false information. Lies if you will. Dove may very well have believed some of what she was saying, but she also knew she was lying about much of it. For example her claims of flying around and meeting with world leaders or having a lawyer on call at a couple of hundred dollars an hour. Many gave her money based on these lies and that was wrong. I only wish she could have lived to see the folly of her ways and return the money to all those people she took it from.

Of course the root cause here was a guy named Clyde Hood from Matoon Illinios. Dove got scammed by someone who picked up on his Omega scam, got sucked in, and this morphed into her own NESARA conspiracy theory with the help of Lord Rama. When exactly it went from a conspiracy theory to a scam we'll never know, but no matter how "high" Dove lived at the end there were still hundreds of thousands of dollars involved, mostly from people who could ill afford it. I know, I've helped a dozen or so such people or their families try and recover some of it over the years.
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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby Trippy » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:08 pm

fortinbras wrote:I have verified it by phoning Heritage Cremation Services in Marysville, Washington.

Yes, Shaini Goodwin is dead. All they were able, under the privacy laws, to tell me is
(1) She died on May 30th, and
(2) The person who ordered the cremation was her sister, Camille Wynn, also of Washington but they would not tell me the specific city.
No other details.


Thanks for the update, Fortinbras.

RIP Ms. Goodwin - may you find the peace and plenty you were searching for.

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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby texino » Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:21 am

The NESARA board is different than most other discussions here at Q because we rarely hear directly from those whom we are trying to expose. Maybe once a year "Big Daddy" will weigh in with some highly coded talk about deep knight and Patrick Bellringer may refer to the CIA disinformation angle meaning Quatloos. Still we don't have many negative posts which require drawn out discussion. I once got Doves private email and wrote her only to have her give me holy hell for having the address. It seems to me that more than trying to get large donations, although she would take money given by fellow travelers, Dove just wanted to be important so she made up an important job and title for herself and mainly just reported proof that NESARA, a bill, on the books that could save us all in one fell swoop, needed announcing, without seeming to understand that not announcing such news would be tantamount to canceling Christmas. Perhaps her sister is right and Dove should have hit the Jesus road which in fact is a very wide hiway with plenty of signs. Finally I would offer props to our moderator for always being fair minded and never taking a cheap shot or making a call he could not support. Also, I offer my sympathy to Ms. Goodwin's sister and thank her for supplying information on the death.
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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby Deep Knight » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:44 pm

Sean Robinson gives us the straight poop. Thanks, Sean!

From the Bellingham Herald online
POSTED: Tuesday, Jun. 15, 2010
Dove of Oneness has left our Earth
Cybercult queen: She issued her last ‘Dove report,’ with love, May 18
SEAN ROBINSON; Staff writer

tool goes here The Dove of Oneness has departed this plane of existence. Her devoted followers will soldier on in her name, spreading the gospel of secret laws, limitless wealth and forgiven credit card debt.

In other words, Shaini Goodwin, cybercult queen, is dead. She was 63. She died May 30 of natural causes, according to the Thurston County Medical Examiner’s Office.

She lived in an old double-wide near Shelton, but her reach was global. At the online home of her regular reports, http://www.nesara.us, her supporters posted the news: “Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life to Save the Good Inhabitants of Planet Earth.”

The spiritual battle raged for 10 days, a supporter named Tami wrote.

“It was with great sorrow that her family and friends, who stood with and protected her in her greatest hour, bade farewell to our sister, our friend, our mentor, our leader, and our inspiration, the Dove of Oneness,” the statement read. “Let there be no mistake, nor any misconstruing of her story that when told, this one woman will one day be considered no less than the Jeanne d’ Arc of our time.”

The News Tribune profiled Goodwin in 2004. The two-part series outlined her ascent to online stardom and the origins of her theories, dredged from the remnants of a Midwestern confidence scam that suckered thousands.

Goodwin gathered the broken threads of the scheme and re-purposed them into a fizzy brew of old-fashioned grift and New Age evangelism, boosted with shots of early 9/11 truther theory. She claimed Congress had passed a secret law that would transform the global economy. She later revised the story of the secret law, but its passage and the wealth it promised were always just around the corner.

An expert in the history of confidence games called her efforts “magnificent.” Her persuasive preaching inspired demonstrators around the world; supporters in the Netherlands carried her message to the World Court, and billboard trucks with her website logo criss-crossed Washington, D.C., for a few weeks in 2004.

She sought donations but never revealed how much her readers gave. A consumer protection complaint filed in 2006 with the Washington Attorney General’s Office accused her of scamming at least $10,000 from a San Francisco woman. The woman’s family said the real amount was far greater.

Goodwin’s “Dove reports,” once issued weekly, became sporadic in recent years. The last report with her signature closing (“Blessings and Love, Dove of Oneness”) appeared May 18. She groaned about galactic struggles. There were problems with efforts to correct Earth’s orbit.

“I did not do a Dove Report in April 2010 because I have been working non-stop talking with the Pleiadian commander who has been betraying us,” she wrote. “He has realized that he is at risk of his own death unless he does the right things before the end of May 2010.”

Read more: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2010/06 ... z0rbmWPymR


Things just won't be the same around here without Dove. She definitely gave a flavor to this scam, it may not have been "good" but it wasn't the spit-it-out-quickly flavor of Bellringer's writings or the foul odor of Lord Rama's scams.
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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby Deep Knight » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:20 am

Big Daddy (who used to post here) put this up on his rarely-visited website on October 10, 2010 to announce that he knew about Dove's death first, but just didn't get around to posting it for 4 months...

Re: "To infinity-and beyond!" LOL

Ok, enough of the toy story lingo...just something to accommodate my greatest fans who didn't get the memo. (Yes, I knew the day after...but since she and her schizkooks didn't warrant any more importance than that of my equally unimportant greatest fan, I took my time and prioritized...the birdie wasn't on the top rung lol)

Yes, the commie wacko's history (verified by Thurston County, WA coroners office)-not that the scam will end with her.
I'm sure some equally illucid wacko will pick up where her scam left off.
But, hey, ya never know...maybe this "commander" really DID "do the right thing" and "recall her home"...lol.
Reminiscent of the episode of "Third Rock from the Sun", where "the big giant head" ruled their mission to earth was a dismal failure-absolutely hilarious. Much like the scammers, their followers, and the real-life leftist heroes they have so overwhelmingly supported (which is irrefutable and well-documented) that are now collapsing under their own schizopahblum.

At any rate, back in realityland, she's history, now it's verified, and now even my greatest fan can rest easy since this is the least of such ilks problems.
But that won't stop such equally schizolefty loons from perpetuating their own self-important dogma in their own mind, as reality is now rising back to where it belongs, and they're not it.
The nesara scam is quickly fading into the ashheap of history where it belongs...too bad they had to twist the original idea (which has nothing to do with them) to where no hope of it ever being implemented would occur...and even all but the most rabid followers (who don't matter in reality anyway) have had the spell from their long-imbibed laced kool-aid has worn off...and while they will have a headache from being such morons to begin with, they are starting to wake up, smell the coffee, and get a real clue...and a real life.
Like adults who never grew out of their terrible-two's, like their lefty heroes now facing the music of reality, they will end up adapting, adjusting, and with a little common sense (the age old absolute opposite of that cancerous poison called "political correctness" which was also used by hitler, stalin, mao, pol pot, idi amin, kim jong-il, and other counterparts of the mental disease called "socialism" & "progressivism") they will manage to mature into real adults...or die trying.

In the mean time, Big Daddy doesn't have time to rest on the laurels of the reality he's long shown (and documents long proved), there are bigger fish to fry...and frankly, the birdie and her ilk didn't even rate flies on the radar screen-more like maggots. But enough of toying with vermin...

Now all that's left is to laugh at those like my greatest fan to find something else to do-I'm sure they'll find something since saul alinsky was their best teacher lol.

Case closed...

That aside, my position remains the same...
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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby Green Lantern » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:26 am

Didn't Mark Twain complain that rumors of his death had been greatly exaggerated?

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Re: Dove of Oneness Sacrifices Life

Postby texino » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:22 am

Hi, it's Ole Texas in 2016 reporting that the NESARA.US site is up on the big board of "Make an offer domain sales" I jumped in at $23.50-no sale. I raised to 100 bucks and was advised to get real and also prove I was no robot. I fired back with "Klaatu barada nikto" which maybe means you are a robot. Oh yes, they are selling Illuminati and "Denar" sites too.
Big fun for all TT
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