More corruption in the courts?

Demosthenes
Grand Exalted Keeper of Esoterica
Posts: 5773
Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:11 pm

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by Demosthenes »

bostonteaparty wrote:It was a verbal order from pre-trial services. The person's name is Jacob M. Scott, who stated it is what the judge requires.
So a magistrate judge verbally told a guy named Jacob M. Scott to verbally order Mike Ioane to deactivate a link?

Who is Jacob M. Scott?
Demo.
LPC
Trusted Keeper of the All True FAQ
Posts: 5233
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2003 3:38 am
Location: Earth

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by LPC »

bostonteaparty wrote:It was a verbal order from pre-trial services.
"Pretrial services" usually means criminal action.

The only criminal action for Michael S. Ioane is in the Eastern District of California, 1:09-cr-00142-LJO-3.

A check on the docket shows orders by Magistrate Judge Sandra M. Snyder, the same MJ that "bostonteaparty" is complaining about.

Demo has already linked above to a copy of the complaint, which can be found at http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/ioane1.pdf

The complaint alleges that Ioane, doing business as "Acacia Business Solutions," "First Amendment Publishers," and other entities, engaged in a conspiracy to evade income taxes using, among other things, fake corporations and trusts.

The link in question seems to be from a promotion of a book published by "First Amendment Publishers" to a website for services provided by "Acacia Business Solutions," which services include the creation of corporations.

In other words, the link seems be from one Ioane web site to another Iaone web site, and could be part of a plan to direct people interested in evading taxes to services to help them evade taxes.

The orders setting the conditions for Ioane's release have a number of Internet-related conditions, including that he not have any access to the Internet, terminate his Internet access, make his computer available to the Pretrial Services Officer for inspection from time to time, not provide tax advice, not be involved with trusts, and not promote, manage, or consult on any corporation, trust, or limited liability company.

Telling Ioane to sever the link between the tax book and the "business services" web site might have seemed to the MJ and PSO as steps necessary or appropriate to enforcing the conditions of release, and they might have told him to do it or risk being returned to custody. (Although I don't know how he would change the web page without access to the Internet.)
Dan Evans
Foreman of the Unified Citizens' Grand Jury for Pennsylvania
(And author of the Tax Protester FAQ: evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html)
"Nothing is more terrible than ignorance in action." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
Demosthenes
Grand Exalted Keeper of Esoterica
Posts: 5773
Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:11 pm

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by Demosthenes »

Ahhh. Now I get it.

Here's the order setting out the conditions:

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/ioane30.pdf
Demo.
cynicalflyer
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 292
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:07 am
Location: Half Way Between the Gutter And The Stars

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by cynicalflyer »

Now, the Magistrate Judge initially ordered him here to no internet whatsoever.
04/10/2009 7 ORDER SETTING CONDITIONS of RELEASE signed by Magistrate Judge Sandra M. Snyder on 4/10/2009. (Flores, E) (Entered: 04/13/2009)
ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OF RELEASE

The defendant shall:
not access the Internet and you shall provide proof the disconnection or termination of this service as required by the Pretrial Services Officer.
not use or possess a computer in your residence or at any other location unless otherwise approved by the Pretrial Services Officer
not promote, manage, consult or, have ownership or management interest in any trust, corporation, or limited liability partnerships, or access any of the bank accounts held by these entities.
But changed to restricted...
05/14/2009 30 MODIFIED ORDER SETTING CONDITIONS of RELEASE signed by Magistrate Judge Sandra M. Snyder on 5/14/2009. (Jessen, A) (Entered: 05/15/2009)
ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OF RELEASE

The defendant shall:
participate in a computer restriction and monitoring program as directed by the Pretrial Services Officer;
not provide tax advice, have power of attorney, be involved in trusts, or preparation of trust minutes.
have limited access to a computer for business purposes for formation and advisement for corporations, and articles of corporations; said access is restricted to a computer on which monitoring software is installed.
all other previously ordered conditions of release not in conflict with this order,shall remain in full force and effect.
"Where there is no law, but every man does what is right in his own eyes, there is the least of real liberty." -- General Henry M. Robert author, Robert's Rules of Order
LPC
Trusted Keeper of the All True FAQ
Posts: 5233
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2003 3:38 am
Location: Earth

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by LPC »

bostonteaparty wrote:It was a verbal order from pre-trial services. The person's name is Jacob M. Scott, who stated it is what the judge requires.
And if you're Michael S. Ioane, you'll comply with the "order" or run the risk of having your bail revoked for violating the conditions of your release.

But if you're not Michael Ioane, then who are you, and why do you care?

A check of "bostonteapartybook.com" shows that the domain is registered to:

Law Offices of (ABS)
214 West Robinson Street, Ste 888
Carson City, Nevada 89703
United States

But I can't find any evidence that any lawyer has an office in that building.

The name listed for the administrative and technical contact is "Rothchild, Michael mike@acaciabusinesssolutions.com". That email would, of course, be the other domain used by Ioane, and might even be an email address that Michael Ioane might use.

The telephone number for the administrative and technical contact is "7758411876". A Google search of that number says that it is owned by....

(Wait for it.)

Mike Ioane, 214 West Robinson Street, Carson City, Nevada 89703

So the book editor, the domain, and the website designer are all Mike Ioane. The only other person who could care about the book and the website is the "author" of the book.

Mr. Galaski, I presume?
Dan Evans
Foreman of the Unified Citizens' Grand Jury for Pennsylvania
(And author of the Tax Protester FAQ: evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html)
"Nothing is more terrible than ignorance in action." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
cynicalflyer
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 292
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:07 am
Location: Half Way Between the Gutter And The Stars

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by cynicalflyer »

bostonteaparty wrote: What?? Are you kidding? Are we as web site owners responsible for claims of service made on sites we link to now?
You are responsible "as web site owners" when YOU OWN THE WEBSITE, Michael.

This was the first registration information for Bostonteapartybook.com
Registrant:
Ioane Enterprises
108 East John Street
Carson City, Nevada 89706
United States

Domain Name: BOSTONTEAPARTYBOOK.COM
Created on: 22-Jul-07
Expires on: 25-Jul-10
Last Updated on: 28-Sep-07

Administrative Contact:
Ioane, Michael scriba@truthinlaw.org
Ioane Enterprises
108 East John Street
Carson City, Nevada 89706
United States
(775) 331-1185 Fax -- (775) 331-1185

Technical Contact:
Ioane, Michael scriba@truthinlaw.org
Ioane Enterprises
108 East John Street
Carson City, Nevada 89706
United States
(775) 331-1185 Fax -- (775) 331-1185

Domain servers in listed order:
NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Current info. I think referring to yourself as a "Law Office" is also a no-no, Michael.
Registrant:
Law Offices of (ABS)
214 West Robinson Street, Ste 888
Carson City, Nevada 89703
United States

Domain Name: BOSTONTEAPARTYBOOK.COM
Created on: 22-Jul-07
Expires on: 25-Jul-18
Last Updated on: 20-Sep-08

Administrative Contact:
Rothchild, Michael
Law Offices of (ABS)
214 West Robinson Street, Ste 888
Carson City, Nevada 89703
United States
7758411876 Fax -- 7758416067

Technical Contact:
Rothchild, Michael
Law Offices of (ABS)
214 West Robinson Street, Ste 888
Carson City, Nevada 89703
United States
7758411876 Fax -- 7758416067

Domain servers in listed order:
NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
"Where there is no law, but every man does what is right in his own eyes, there is the least of real liberty." -- General Henry M. Robert author, Robert's Rules of Order
LPC
Trusted Keeper of the All True FAQ
Posts: 5233
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2003 3:38 am
Location: Earth

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by LPC »

LPC wrote:A check of "bostonteapartybook.com" shows that the domain is registered to:

Law Offices of (ABS)
214 West Robinson Street, Ste 888
Carson City, Nevada 89703
United States

But I can't find any evidence that any lawyer has an office in that building.
It just dawned on me that "ABS" would be Acacia Business Solutions.

So Iaone was passing himself off as a lawyer?
Dan Evans
Foreman of the Unified Citizens' Grand Jury for Pennsylvania
(And author of the Tax Protester FAQ: evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html)
"Nothing is more terrible than ignorance in action." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
LPC
Trusted Keeper of the All True FAQ
Posts: 5233
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2003 3:38 am
Location: Earth

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by LPC »

Demosthenes wrote:Ahhh. Now I get it.
You mean I got one jump ahead of you?

What's the sound of one hand high-fiving itself?
Dan Evans
Foreman of the Unified Citizens' Grand Jury for Pennsylvania
(And author of the Tax Protester FAQ: evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html)
"Nothing is more terrible than ignorance in action." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
Demosthenes
Grand Exalted Keeper of Esoterica
Posts: 5773
Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:11 pm

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by Demosthenes »

LPC wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:Ahhh. Now I get it.
You mean I got one jump ahead of you?

What's the sound of one hand high-fiving itself?
Dang. :oops:
Demo.
User avatar
grixit
Recycler of Paytriot Fantasies
Posts: 4287
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:02 am

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by grixit »

Normally such a misrepresentation would probably be overlooked, but as part of a case involving fraudulent legal advice i'd say it goes to intent.
Three cheers for the Lesser Evil!

10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
. . . . . . Dr Pepper
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . 4
ASITStands
17th Viscount du Voolooh
Posts: 1088
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:15 pm

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by ASITStands »

grixit wrote:Normally such a misrepresentation would probably be overlooked, but as part of a case involving fraudulent legal advice i'd say it goes to intent.
Yep. Intent. Willfulness. Mens Rea.
Paul

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by Paul »

What's the sound of one hand high-fiving itself?
I wouldn't know. It's usually drowned out by the sounds of someone falling down the basement stairs after the cat "accidentally" gets tangled in his feet.
User avatar
Gregg
Conde de Quatloo
Posts: 5631
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 5:08 am
Location: Der Dachshundbünker

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by Gregg »

Paul wrote:
What's the sound of one hand high-fiving itself?
I wouldn't know. It's usually drowned out by the sounds of someone falling down the basement stairs after the cat "accidentally" gets tangled in his feet.

So that's why she wears the melon helmet!
Supreme Commander of The Imperial Illuminati Air Force
Your concern is duly noted, filed, folded, stamped, sealed with wax and affixed with a thumbprint in red ink, forgotten, recalled, considered, reconsidered, appealed, denied and quietly ignored.
Number Six
Hereditary Margrave of Mooloosia
Posts: 1231
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:35 pm
Location: Connecticut, "The Constitution State"

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by Number Six »

So that's why she wears the melon helmet![/quote]

I thought it was either a hollowed-out granny smith apple or a carved-up game ball.
'There are two kinds of injustice: the first is found in those who do an injury, the second in those who fail to protect another from injury when they can.' (Roman. Cicero, De Off. I. vii)

'Choose loss rather than shameful gains.' (Chilon Fr. 10. Diels)
Famspear
Knight Templar of the Sacred Tax
Posts: 7668
Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 12:59 pm
Location: Texas

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by Famspear »

Number Six wrote:I thought it was either a hollowed-out granny smith apple or a carved-up game ball.
And I always thought it was a slice or peel of lime.
"My greatest fear is that the audience will beat me to the punch line." -- David Mamet
Demosthenes
Grand Exalted Keeper of Esoterica
Posts: 5773
Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:11 pm

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by Demosthenes »

Pomelo. Some varietals can grow as large as basketballs. They're popular in China, which is the probable origin of my avatar pic.

Image
Demo.
Famspear
Knight Templar of the Sacred Tax
Posts: 7668
Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 12:59 pm
Location: Texas

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by Famspear »

Demosthenes wrote:Pomelo. Some varietals can grow as large as basketballs. They're popular in China, which is the probable origin of my avatar pic.

Image
Woah, Agnes, now that's a nice lookin' set!

:)

Uh, I mean a nice lookin' set of pomelos.

You know.....

........or, would the plural be "pomeloes"??


EDIT: I apologize in advance if my reaction unfortunately engenders a responsive series of tasteless, adolescently sophomoric, testosterone-laden pomelo jokes.

Boy, that really is a nice lookin' set, though....
"My greatest fear is that the audience will beat me to the punch line." -- David Mamet
jcolvin2
Grand Master Consul of Quatloosia
Posts: 825
Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:19 am
Location: Seattle

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by jcolvin2 »

Pomelos (native to southeast asian native) were crossed with sweet oranges to create grapefruits, probably in Barbados. Pomelos are generally milder and thicker skinned than grapefruit. Interestingly, the US may be largest commercial producer of pomelos.
Doktor Avalanche
Asst Secretary, the Dept of Jesters
Posts: 1767
Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 10:20 pm
Location: Yuba City, CA

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by Doktor Avalanche »

Demosthenes wrote:Pomelo. Some varietals can grow as large as basketballs. They're popular in China, which is the probable origin of my avatar pic.

Image
Now I'm wondering what sort of adult beverage I could fill it with if I sliced one in half and hollowed them out.

Yes, I know... I have a one-track mind.
The laissez-faire argument relies on the same tacit appeal to perfection as does communism. - George Soros
User avatar
grixit
Recycler of Paytriot Fantasies
Posts: 4287
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:02 am

Re: More corruption in the courts?

Post by grixit »

Sangria, served from the pomelos in the bra of a store dummy dressed as Carmen Miranda.
Three cheers for the Lesser Evil!

10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
. . . . . . Dr Pepper
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . 4