Brosserts Pulling An Ed And Elaine

[Joey Smith]

http://www.kfgo.com/fm-headline-news.php?ID=0000005408

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/a ... id/215683/

[fortinbras]

I had wondered what became of Roger Elvick and I see that prolonged confinement and psychiatric attention has not improved him.

[Famspear]

I had wondered what became of Roger Elvick and I see that prolonged confinement and psychiatric attention has not improved him.

It's hard to improve when you're a 75 year old former "Aryan Nation" associate and ex-con.

[notorial dissent]

A nutball, and apparently a contagious nutball at that. I would say I was surprised he wasn't in the middle of this, but I rather suspect he is of the ilk who readily encourages others to lunatic acts while staying safely on the side lines.

[Famspear]

Here are two prior reported court decisions regarding a "Rodney Brossart" in North Dakota:

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? ... 73&scilh=0

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? ... 99&scilh=0

[grixit]

Hmm, a sovereign and a rustler. But it looks to me as if the real issue is cussedness. The issues of public right of way vs farming public land adjacent to yours, fixing the road next to you, and so forth seems like something that should be easily resolved among the citizens themselves but it appears that Brossert can't even be bothered to ask permission to dump a load of gravel in a soft spot or try to work out a schedule to share the divider strip with his neighbors. Instead he seems to go out of his way to aggravate the neighbors.

And now he's cussed himself into a possible felony.

[notorial dissent]

Sounds to me like this bunch really ought to live a whole lot further out in the back of beyond where there are fewer neighbors to have to fight with. I'm actually rather impressed with the local restraint, they usually just shoot people like that and be done with it out there.

[Demosthenes]

Six weeks later, and the Brossarts finally gave up and turned themselves in.

http://www.valleynewslive.com/story/159 ... appearance

[Lambkin]

This will be a fabulous meme for the tin-foil hat brigade.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... 2571.story

Reporting from Washington— Armed with a search warrant, Nelson County Sheriff Kelly Janke went looking for six missing cows on the Brossart family farm in the early evening of June 23. Three men brandishing rifles chased him off, he said.

Janke knew the gunmen could be anywhere on the 3,000-acre spread in eastern North Dakota. Fearful of an armed standoff, he called in reinforcements from the state Highway Patrol, a regional SWAT team, a bomb squad, ambulances and deputy sheriffs from three other counties.

He also called in a Predator B drone.

[ArthurWankspittle]

This will be a fabulous meme for the tin-foil hat brigade.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... 2571.story

"It could make us question the doctrine that you do not have privacy in public."

What?

[The Observer]

Another news story on the Brossarts:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... fight-case

[xanadu]

This whole mess, which started as a very simple problem has grown beyond all reasonable
bounds. If at his first trial, Brossert had had a jury of his peers ( rural farmers like himself ),
he would have been found not guilty. But a jury of " city folks " did him in.
Now he's charged with rustlering 6 cattle. I believe N.D. is an open range state, which basically means, " No Brand - His cows ". They used to lynch cattle thieves. Times have
changed but not Brossert.
They used a drone aircraft to track him down. The U.S. is one of the world's largest
defenders of " sovereign air space ". Yet it appears that a citizen of the U.S. has no
sovereign air space rights of his own. Do as I say, not as I do.
One news item branded him a " Sovereign ". Not true, if he had not paid his taxes, he would
have lost his 3,200 acre ranch long ago.
I believe he's a simple country farmer, that's having a hard time living in the 21th Century.

[notorial dissent]

This whole mess...

I’m sorry, I just have to ask, what planet and or reality did you say you were from???

There is nothing “simple” about this “whole mess”, as you put it.

In the first place what makes you think he didn’t have a jury of his peers, in ND, there isn’t much option for anything else, and if he had had some of his neighbors on the jury they would probably have voted for hanging.

What part of this guy and his family are dangerous loons don’t you get? The whole family have a loooong history of “issues” with the local law, as well as their neighbors for that matter, and this was just the latest and worst. In that part of the world, you don’t threaten people with guns, and particularly not the local sheriff and expect to keep your hide in one piece. There is a lot of latitude for stupid, but there are limits, and Brossert has long since tromped over that line.

Yes, you got part of it almost right, ND like most western states is an open range state, which means cattle are to be branded, not that unbranded cattle are fair game. Like lunch, there are no free cattle. If they get into your property, you can charge for board, damages, nuisance value, and probably about anything else, but you can’t keep them. They’re not yours!!!!

The simple fact is that they weren’t his, so they had to belong to someone else, and he decided to take them, which is called rustling, a not so fancy name for theft. And actually, I wouldn’t bet on times having changed all that much, from what I have heard from friends in ND, he is lucky the law got to him first. Patience is a virtue, but it has its limits, and from what I have read, he has long over reached that of his neighbors. Considering the actual value of livestock in this day and age, it could well have come under the heading of felony theft on top of it.

Another point, airspace in the US is claimed SOLELY by the Federal Gov’t, and it has long been held in court that if someone can see something either from above a property or in passing over, it is fair game. The drone wasn’t launched until after a search warrant was issued, so the point is moot even if there were one.

As to whether or not he is a “sovrun” since he seems to hold the opinion that the laws his neighbors have to abide by don’t apply to him, I would say he fits the bill whether or not he has been paying his taxes or not, maybe his wife isn’t thrilled with the idea of being homeless, who knows, or for that matter cares?

Simple minded, I’ll grant you, but from the sounds of things, he is just plain and simple an nasty piece of work and it was only a matter of time before he actually hurt someone just being “a simple country farmer”, and from the sounds of it that should actually be “rancher”.

[notorial dissent]

Pretty much, and not too bright in the bargain.

[JamesVincent]

So, you are saying he is a hornswoggling, cattle-rustling, cheap-jack, four flushing, back shooting, yellow bellied, sod buster?

Didnt you say he was a rancher? Sod busters are farmers.