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(This is a spin-off from the Ron Van Dyke thread:
A team around "the Amba" has just launched a new website and educational effort, and this story looks set to get more interesting... as they try to use their imaginal powers to bring forward a better, truer, and more peaceful world, using the "Ambassador's" wonderful connections - Or so they say )
On a Forum somewhere, a connection was made to something that Ben Fulford had said in his short video posted recently on Rumor Mills News:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... read=11247
According to an excerpt from the Dr. William Mount article dated Oct. 2014, the Dragon Family Now Runs The IMF piece posted here:
http://drwilliammount.blogspot.com/2014 ... s-imf.html
First Story: “Fed Set To Finally Get Out Of Market.’” This means that the $300 Trillion Dollars the US Corporation owns in Stock and Bonds will be liquidated to pay back those they owe and to put this nation back into order.
Listen what Ben says at the 40 second mark in a brand new Video :
and then read the above excerpt above. Some folks took this as a Confirmation that wealth would be taken from the Rich (0.1% - 1%), and given to the poor.
And here's more from Oct. 2014, about the Dragons owning the Fed and IMF:
18-10-2014: DRAGON FAMILY NOW OWNS IMF & FEDERAL RESERVE
(I wonder if anybody bothered to tell Christine Laguard that she had new bosses.)
That was Oct.2014 - and NOTHING Happened.
The so-called "Ambassador of the Dragon Family' promised a Jubilee before
Chinese New Year (that was last Thursday),
and we did get an announcement - What was it?
A bizarre marriage proposal, and the launch of a new website:
17-02-2015: AMBASSADOR'S TEAM TALKS CANDIDLY ABOUT OUR MISSION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50-mK1V ... xO&index=4
New website: http://www.truevisionofpeace.com/
Let's see what comes of this new effort.
But it promises to provide loads of entertainment.
If the guy had 1/100th of the money, power, or connections that he role plays, then why is it he only talks to a little known new agers with youtube channels? Why is it the Ambassador was not able to end RVD's constant court problems? Surely it would be nothing to dispatch a Dragon Family lawyer or pay off RVD's house - but he did nothing.
Why is it there needs to be an educational effort via a website no one but true believers will ever read...when the Dragon Family myth says they control all that gold and influence? Why not show up on the BBC at 6PM and announce the Prosperity Funds? Surely if you had all that money and influence getting on prime time news would be very easy. It would be like when any world leader wants to talk to the media - there is never a lack of microphones at their podiums.
Well, we know why. Because the Dragon Family is a myth, Prosperity Funds have been wholly made up, the Ambassador is a role player who gets off on having prosperity believers follow him around like puppy dogs.
notorial dissent wrote:Is this bozo actually in the country, or is he just stringing these gullible yokels along from somewhere outside the boundaries of law and order that could get him for perpetrating a public fraud?
Its hard to tell, but I suspect hes in the UK. Very strong English accent - which doesn't mean anything of course as he could live anywhere - but I remember him talking about living near London before.
Of course hes making everything else up, so he could make up where he lives too.
Of course hes making everything else up, so he could make up where he lives too.
the scambassador is not creative enough to be making this up. benny fulford is making it up. he is simply using artistic license on benny's shtick. i bought a newspaper subscription for clifford recon but i just cant sink myself low enough to pay to hear fulfords el torro poo poo. if i could find a second hand link i may listen if bored enough. but i wouldn't give him one damn dime. its just not worth it even for entertainment.
the reason the scambassador appears to be behind it is no one in their right mind pays for benny's site so he never gets exposed for plagiarism.
The Ambassador repeats himself too much.
He keeps repeating that "555 will overcome 666", and none of the people listening to Ron's podcast can clearly understand what he means by that. And he also tells the listeners, that the Dragon Family, which collects Trillions in interest* from somebody, and has loads of power cannot act - that the people themselves must make the change. People find this confusing.
So now a new voice has been added to the Team : Radaghast, the "modern wizard". Here's Rada, at your service:
The Ambassador Interview with Ron Van Dyke: In My Words
Rada will explain what the Ambassador really meant.
*as per some World Bank documents, which have now been identified as fakes.
Here are the common themes I am growing weary of with the Ambassador.
1) Constantly talking about 555 and 666.
It MEANS NOTHING TO ME. It helps nothing and no one. I don't care about this symbolism. I don't see why it is constantly being brought up. You mentioned it once or twice, fine. What point is it to keep harping about it?
Say what you mean - we don't care about cryptic numerology references.
2) "Everyone just wants to be rich, and buy a Bently" they say.
NO. I live humbly, and I am guessing most here do also. We just want a means to have basic food, housing, and utilities. I DON'T want to be rich. I just want to see an end to debt slavery and mortgage fraud. My furnace just broke and cost 540$ to fix - it's that kind of thing we could use help with.
3) "Money is not the answer... we (family) have ALL the money, but giving it to YOU will not help." they say,
OK, so then what do you even bring to the table??? Look, we don't need lectures from some guy sitting in a cushy life style, without financial pressures, telling us about how money would not help regular people buy food, or pay the bills. We don't need the cabal to patronize us. Either offer something worthwhile, or step aside. We don't need spiritual guidance from elites. If you want to help, then help. Otherwise, don't bother pretending.
4) "All the regular people are ignorant, and they allowed everything to happen because they are like stupid goldfish."
Oh, really?? That is definitely the kind of patronizing, condescending attitude I would expect from some elitist type. Perhaps people are ignorant because they are generally decent folks and don't expect they would be under constant assault and deception by a dark cabal hell-bent on enslaving, fooling, manipulating, and controlling them at all costs. Doesn't matter which faction it is...
5) "Everything needs to move very slowly in baby step. Big things are happening, but must be done in baby steps."
The only folks who want positive changes to happen in baby steps, are often those who want to MAINTAIN the STATUS QUO. Those in power want to hold onto power by slowing or stopping changes. They can only deal with changes slowly, so that they can find a way to control the changes for themselves.
There is more, but as I keep listening to these, I see nothing of value culminating. I don't want or need a savior. If some part of the cabal wants to change and reach out to the regular people, fine. I appreciate the gesture and welcome your awakening. But, please don't try to fool us.
from: Arctrys : 22-02-2015: FRUSTRATION & IMPATIENCE RUN DEEP:
if that is what it is):
... from RVD's channel today:
I was unclear on what the Ambassador talking about regarding something that was not working out and Dave S. name came up. What was the Ambassador talking about that would have to be approached at a later time?
Take a guess...and, does this surprise You? Questions of Ego/Sincerity come up, & hints have been "subtly" dropped here before(partially including the words, paraphrased "...more concerned about self, & to be the ones/the center, to be the 'distributers' & maybe more concerned w/ getting their piece of the pie, & control, coming from that same mindset as the cabal, just some more of the same."). Just a sense, & saw it coming...could be off, but don't think so.
True Vision of Peace March 13, 2015
"This video is the first TVoP authentic communication going up on our website at Truevisionofpeace.com and here. All communication with the Ambassador will happen through TVoP team releases. This will cut down the confusion that has resulted with the multiple outlets that have worked with the Ambassador in the past. There will be one coherent source for communication from the team."
Ron's return from all the hours he invested in promoting this effort => ZERO
"The Ambassador made it clear in our conversation that he was not upset with me, though he wanted the drama and intrigue to stop. Because of all the complaints, he was instructed to stop creating programs with me and with Dave Schmidt. He felt he failed with us. I'm sure there are others who rejoiced to hear that news. Since 2011, my life has been filled with drama and intrigue. First RuSA, then Swiss Indo, then the Dragon Family. I guess it goes with the territory. For me, the stress built up till I felt like my body was telling me it was dying. At first I was disappointed, feeling betrayed. Perhaps it's a blessing in disguise, giving me time not only to heal, but to become better than I've ever been in my life, physically, spiritually and emotionally. I still want to see a better world, playing whatever role I am called upon to play; however, helping Ron (myself to) heal is my first priority."
> source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdPloC-SeW8
Here are two new posts:
Hey guys & gals, TVOP is now planning... A Fund Raiser !
(Something is really wrong, it seems to me. If the Amba and the DF are as wealthy as they say, why are they doing a Fund-raiser? Many people do good works, and offer good info by making at least SOME of their good info available for Free. Why doesn't TVOP try that??)
A series of workshops and seminars are being designed in alignment with our mission. These TVoP Conferences and Workshops are now available :-
TVoP Sunday Special!
This is a TVoP charity fund-raising event* : 'Meet The Ambassador and the TVoP Team - An Open Q & A Forum' online for 2 hours on Zoom at 2pm GMT every Sunday (except Easter Sunday) at $100.00 per participant (100% goes to charitable activities), starting from 22nd March 2015. Please email firstname.lastname@example.org to register. Limited seats. First come first serve.
Theme of discussion: "Seeking Greater Understanding of Building a Better World Together".
TVoP is inviting thinkers, visionaries and cultural creatives, people who are able to be charitable and care for humanity and our beautiful planet, to participate in a think tank session with the Ambassador and Team. Valued participants are requested to prepare their insightful questions that will be beneficial to the public in advance as the Q & A will be recorded to be archived on the 'Voice of the Dragon' page of the website. The panel discussions will be open to the floor but Sessions Chair would allocate time limit to each who speaks up, so be brief, concise, to the point, purposeful and non-personal.
(under RVD's latest video)
Rada, please! What is going on here ??
Have you heard the one about the World's Wealthiest family?
They turned away from evil, and decided to launch a new type of charity, to "give their wealth back to the people." ("We are just Trustees for the Wealth," they said.)
They did not want to hand out money with No Accountability, so they came up with the idea of offering 0%-Loans. (Now, that's creative!) But before they fully explained how their program would work, what did they do?
They launched a Fund Raiser.
(When you stop laughing, check out TVOP, and see how real this Tale is.)
(under Modwiz125's latest video)
Another one bites the dust?:
VIDEO : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWsJcg-g1pg
*TVOP : True Vision Of Peace:
http://www.truevisionofpeace.com/semina ... shops.html
But if you think that way, you are a rational person - and rational people don't believe stuff like this anyways. We saw the same money making scam with the OPPT - while Heather Tucci-Jarraf was promising everyone billions through her magical gibberish, she was raking in tons of money through donations.
These kind of moves should be a fatal blow for the LARPing Ambassador, but he knows his audience, and he knows they are stupid enough to send money.
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LightinDarkness wrote:These kind of moves should be a fatal blow for the LARPing Ambassador, but he knows his audience, and he knows they are stupid enough to send money.
It is quite the bait and switch. After first presenting themselves as the source of funds that will liberate the downtrodden, they now become a vacuum to suck up the few funds the faithful have left after buying all those Dinars.
RVD wrote:Realizing that your culture places great stock in saving face, may I be so bold as to suggest that the best way you can save face is to help free humanity from the bonds of debt and ignorance.16-03-2015: RON SPEAKS TO CHINESE DRAGON FAMILY ELDERS
Waiting for the Dragon Family to liberate the people from debt is avoiding responsibility, everyone needs to follow this principle:
Don't Buy Stuff You Cannot Afford - a 1 page book!
Their TVoP effort is utopian and at this point, dubious. Sure it is commendable to work for peace, but it is not a money issue, it is a moral issue. Like the Amba says, people have to stop the aggression against one another. How long has that message been around? There is no amount of money that can achieve that goal, people have to change. We've had war on this planet for how many centuries now?
Around last August Dave Schmidt was saying funds will be released, but not in the way we expect. He started talking about humanitarian projects that could be funded. Now to be eligible to have one's business plan for a project reviewed, one has to attend one of Dave's workshops (which Dave has now raised the prices on) or one put on by TVOP which are only $100.
My favorite part of this scam is that now they are charging people $100 a pop to pitch your "humanitarian project" to the ambassador. This covers "legal process fees" which the website assures you is no where near the cost of the real fees. So basically we have people desperate for free money making up fake business plans for projects (which I am sure are humanitarian...including setting a high pay rate for themselves) that will never occur.
Then, these people pay real money to pitch the project over a conference call to a role player who claims to have vast sums of wealth...yet needs your $100 for "fees."
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