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Dr. Caligari wrote:Sorry, Grixit, I can't see that image.
I had the same problem, and I started to edit the posting thinking it was a syntax problem, but the syntax is right, and the URL is right, and when I exited from the edit the image appeared for me, so I'm not sure what the problem is (or even if there is a problem).

(Although now, using a different computer and a different browser, I don't see the image.)
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IMDB has hotlink protection on their images. If you view the IMDB page for the movie, the image will load. If you then come here and view this thread, the image will load -- because it's already in your browser cache. If you copy and link URL and paste it into the address bar of a new browser window, the image will load. (That one's because some old browsers don't support the "referer URL" feature that hotlink protection uses, so when the server gets a request for the image that's not coming as part of a larger page at all, the server assumes that it's coming from an older browser and allows it.) But if someone tries to link the image in a non-IMDB page (as was done here), and you're viewing the page without having previously viewed the image in some other way, then the image won't load.
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Demosthenes wrote:Indicted.

http://cheatingfrenzy.com/PAM_indict.pdf
Site not found?
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LPC wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:Indicted.

http://cheatingfrenzy.com/PAM_indict.pdf
Site not found?
It would appear to be a DNS issue - you can't even ping the site.
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wserra wrote:The site's registration expired waiting for The Book.
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Modeleski discussed part of his case on Talkshoe last night. Mentioned he did 11 months in jail.
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Jeffrey wrote:Modeleski discussed part of his case on Talkshoe last night. Mentioned he did 11 months in jail.
Did he claim a victory on getting released?
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The usual claims of victory and some stuff about suing the Bureau of Prisons.

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-39904/TS-1152241.mp3
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PAM, truly a legend and a reality ONLY in his own mind.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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Nearly 3 hours of PAM rambling and ranting? Sorry, I just don't have that kind of time to invest in that sort of masochism.
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Particularly when most of it is fantasy on his part. He spent most of his enforced vacation under psychiatric observation, which he didn't like one bit, and which is also why he ISN'T currently a guest at Club Fed for his part in his buddy's little, well not so little really, scam.
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Well the audio left me with one question, PAM doesn't sound any crazier than the average tax protester, so I don't understand why he got off while his co-conspirators were sent to jail.
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Jeffrey wrote:Well the audio left me with one question, PAM doesn't sound any crazier than the average tax protester, so I don't understand why he got off while his co-conspirators were sent to jail.
PAM for years has been a very chronic filer of suits and using the legal system to harass everyone (not just the government) that he has felt has been persecuting him in one fashion or another. People tend to think after a while that this kind of behavior is indicative of insanity and act accordingly. If this is the case, it is an win that not even PAM saw coming.
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PAM is crazy, and has been crazy probably for the last twenty years or so give or take. In his case, I think it was a gradual slip off the reality trolley on to the land of fantasy and persecution he now exists it. He is one of the rare ones with a very well and consistent constructed irreality, but irreality it is. The critical part is that somewhere along the way he lost the ability to distinguish between fact and fiction and so what he does on a regular basis is perfectly normal in his reality, just not everyone else's. He has some very odd and carefully constructed fantasies about life that he holds very tightly too, but they are just fantasies.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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notorial dissent wrote:He is one of the rare ones with a very well and consistent constructed irreality, but irreality it is. The critical part is that somewhere along the way he lost the ability to distinguish between fact and fiction and so what he does on a regular basis is perfectly normal in his reality, just not everyone else's.
On the money. Judge Freudenthal actually put it quite similarly three years ago in her order finding Mitch incompetent and committing him for observation:
While Mitchell's thought processes are linear, clear and coherent on these points, they are fraught with delusional content. Further, he appears convinced that only his view of the law is correct, and it appears unlikely that he will ever consider alternate viewpoints or opinions so long as he remains in this acute episode.
As she later found in directing the dismissal of the indictment, in Mitch's case it is entirely possible that the "acute episode" will last the rest of his life.
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I don't know if the judge was just being cautious or reaching for understatement, but PAM EVER "consider(ing) alternate viewpoints or opinions" is kind of on the order of saying the sun comes up regularly in the east. First, I don't think he is capable of such or so inclined at this point, and as to his "acute episode" lasting the rest of his life, equally on par.
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I don't know how all you know Modeleski but he is currently in Roseburg, OR causing all kinds of trouble. Modeleski has filed a 42 million dollar lawsuit against the county for what he claims were fraudulent property tax bills and mail fraud. He wants the county to pay him $280,000 to sue them. I know how he works. I just hate to see the county have to spend tax dollars to fight this crazy person who will keep it in court forever. Any suggestions on how to stop him?
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