FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

"Buy 1 for yourself and get the chance to sell your friends and family 5 and get your downline started!" We examine the multi-level marketing industry, where only the people who come up with the ideas make any money, and everybody else is left unhappy, broke, and tired of reading scripts and selling overpriced vitamins and similarly worthless products. Includes Global Prosperity, Pinnacle Quest International, IRS Codebusters, Stratia, and other new Global Prosperity scams.

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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby Skapegoat13 » Wed May 08, 2013 6:39 pm

MLM fraud whistle-blower Joseph Isaacs (http://www.joseph-isaacs.com), who was made famous by exposing the Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM) pyramid scheme and fraud back in 2010, has just released his memoir titled, “Skapegoat the FHTM Blame Game Story”. It is available via Amazon for the Kindle, via Barnes and Noble for the Nook and also in paperback through Create Space.

[Moderator deletes lengthy commercial for self-published book. Anyone who cares can read it.]

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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby notorial dissent » Wed May 08, 2013 8:04 pm

Poor poor Joe Isaacs, such a poor abused baby!!!

At any rate, we now have a new publication to add to the fiction and fantasy shelf.

Incidentally, if you're going to shill for someone, you really ought to read the rest of the information that has been posted about them in the forum you are posting to, tends to cut down on the laughing and pointing, in your general direction, that is.
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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby notorial dissent » Wed May 08, 2013 9:00 pm

Apparently more than you do, as I said, it would be advisable to read the material previously posted before you put your foot further in your mouth.

I fail to see any reason to be concerned about one scammer playing slapdown with another. They are both beneath contempt, and both have been roundly slapped down in the courts by this point.
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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby Skapegoat13 » Wed May 08, 2013 9:23 pm

Mr. Isaacs has never been a scammer or slapped down by any court. He won the Federal case against FHTM as it was dismissed. He also won the Arbitration against FHTM as it was settled at t heir request back in 2011, when they paid him to go away. You have a twisted sense of humor and a total lack of any facts.

You shouldnt crucify the guy who put an end to FHTM for good. He was a rep for a short time in 2009 and setup a FREE social network. The book is a true account of the freaking saga with a pyramid scheme. FHTM.

Maybe before commenting again you should try reading it and then apologize for your rude and obnoxious comments directed at Mr. Isaacs. :lol:

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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby Cathulhu » Wed May 08, 2013 9:24 pm

Actually, Scapegoat, it looks to me that you are Joe, and are making an appearance here solely to flog your vanity press book. Bored now.
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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby wserra » Wed May 08, 2013 9:39 pm

Cathulhu wrote:Actually, Scapegoat, it looks to me that you are Joe


"FHTM" (almost certainly Joe Isaacs) posted from tampfl.fios.verizon.net. "fhtmclassaction" (almost certainly Joe Isaacs) posted from tampfl.fios.verizon.net. "Scapegoat13" (almost certainly Joe Isaacs) posts from tampfl.fios.verizon.net.

Draw your own conclusions.
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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby wserra » Wed May 08, 2013 9:43 pm

Three posts deleted, as will be any others that call names.
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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby wserra » Wed May 08, 2013 10:07 pm

I started to do a Joe Isaacs chronology, but nd is right: it's all right here, in this thread. One thing I can't resist:

Skapegoat13 wrote:He won the Federal case against FHTM as it was dismissed.


Bullshit. You agreed to an order directing you to stop infringing. At that, you failed to comply until FHTM (also scammers) brought two orders to show cause to punish you for contempt. The second one caused the judge to hold a full-blown hearing. Following the hearing, he wrote: "While Isaacs has offered excuses for his delay in full compliance, the Court will not accept any further excuses." It was only then that you complied.

Nice "dismissal".
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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby notorial dissent » Wed May 08, 2013 10:52 pm

Since Skapegoat13's seriously over done, fact lite protestations and boostering of poor ole picked on Joe, sounded just like poor ole Joe's previous attempts as "FHTM", "fhtmclassaction" earlier in the thread, all three still sound exactly alike, all spouting the same line, and same lies, the absurdly small chance they weren't Joe since he has been running a one man band all this time, and as no one else seems to be concerned about the current state of Joe abuse, the likelihood of it being anyone else is terrifically small, so under the Duck Protocol, you're stuck!

Basically, a really piss poor scam artist tried to scam a bigger scam artist, and his suckers, got REPEATEDLY slapped down, and did in fact lose in court, REPEATEDLY, and is now trying to scam the few remaining poor souls who have been lost on a desert island lo these many years and have never heard this tale, told by a ******
(you can appropriately fill in the blank as suits you), full of sound and fury, signifying nothing, with a fabricated sob story of Homeric dimensions, that as I previously stated, belongs on the fiction and fantasy shelves in the remaindered section.
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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby Cathulhu » Thu May 09, 2013 12:01 am

Thank you, Wes, for maintaining civility. I'm not skilled enough with my computer to track an IP, but it seemed so very obvious from the link and the suck-up review that it was the author posting. And incredibly obvious that we're talking vanity press desktop publishing, which I have little respect for. Joe's thin-skinned replies (three of which you had to delete) only confirm this.
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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby Judge Roy Bean » Thu May 09, 2013 4:29 am

Unfortunately for Joe, "I told you so" publishing may not be as rewarding as he thought it would be.
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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby Skapegoat13 » Thu May 09, 2013 12:05 pm

You should try reading ALL of the court filings and documents and not the initial ones. What Isaacs said all along is that FHTM is a scam. Stop trying to castrate the messenger. :violin:

wserra wrote:I started to do a Joe Isaacs chronology, but nd is right: it's all right here, in this thread. One thing I can't resist:

Skapegoat13 wrote:He won the Federal case against FHTM as it was dismissed.


Bullshit. You agreed to an order directing you to stop infringing. At that, you failed to comply until FHTM (also scammers) brought two orders to show cause to punish you for contempt. The second one caused the judge to hold a full-blown hearing. Following the hearing, he wrote: "While Isaacs has offered excuses for his delay in full compliance, the Court will not accept any further excuses." It was only then that you complied.

Nice "dismissal".
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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby Skapegoat13 » Thu May 09, 2013 12:07 pm

wserra wrote:Three posts deleted, as will be any others that call names.



Its ok for you to lie, cause you have the wonderful job as moderator for this BS forum.

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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby Skapegoat13 » Thu May 09, 2013 12:09 pm

There is no need to read any material previously posted as it is UNTRUE and extremelly slanted.

notorial dissent wrote:Apparently more than you do, as I said, it would be advisable to read the material previously posted before you put your foot further in your mouth.

I fail to see any reason to be concerned about one scammer playing slapdown with another. They are both beneath contempt, and both have been roundly slapped down in the courts by this point.

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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby Pottapaug1938 » Thu May 09, 2013 12:10 pm

Well, skapegoat, let's try two simple yes-or-no questions: are you Joe Isaacs? And then, have you ever posted from tampfl.fios.verizon.net, as have FHTM and fhtmclassaction?
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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby Skapegoat13 » Thu May 09, 2013 12:10 pm

Yep, Joe must be the only guy in Florida who uses Verizon FiOS. MORONS

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Cathulhu wrote:Actually, Scapegoat, it looks to me that you are Joe


"FHTM" (almost certainly Joe Isaacs) posted from tampfl.fios.verizon.net. "fhtmclassaction" (almost certainly Joe Isaacs) posted from tampfl.fios.verizon.net. "Scapegoat13" (almost certainly Joe Isaacs) posts from tampfl.fios.verizon.net.

Draw your own conclusions.

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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby Skapegoat13 » Thu May 09, 2013 12:12 pm

If you bothered to follow the entire case you would have realized that it was later determined that the infringement never existed and the URLs FHTM sued for belonged to Time Warner (Fortune Magazine). You never got the essense of the lawsuit nor the reason the scam FHTM filed it. I feel sorry for your total denial and lack of knowledge of the case or the parties.

wserra wrote:I started to do a Joe Isaacs chronology, but nd is right: it's all right here, in this thread. One thing I can't resist:

Skapegoat13 wrote:He won the Federal case against FHTM as it was dismissed.


Bullshit. You agreed to an order directing you to stop infringing. At that, you failed to comply until FHTM (also scammers) brought two orders to show cause to punish you for contempt. The second one caused the judge to hold a full-blown hearing. Following the hearing, he wrote: "While Isaacs has offered excuses for his delay in full compliance, the Court will not accept any further excuses." It was only then that you complied.

Nice "dismissal".

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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby littleroundman » Thu May 09, 2013 12:21 pm

Skapegoat13 wrote:Its ok for you to lie, cause you have the wonderful job as moderator for this BS forum.


The very same "BS forum" on which you're trying to sell your book.

Funny idea of modern marketing methods you have there, Joe.

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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby notorial dissent » Thu May 09, 2013 1:11 pm

Skapegoat13 wrote:Yep, Joe must be the only guy in Florida who uses Verizon FiOS. MORONS

Draw your own conclusions.
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Mediocre, and expected, attempt at deflection, now answer the question!!

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Re: FHTM (Fortune High Tech Marketing)

Postby wserra » Thu May 09, 2013 2:36 pm

Skapegoat13 wrote:He won the Federal case against FHTM as it was dismissed.
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If you bothered to follow the entire case


OK, so I went back to look at the "entire case".

Judge Forrester directed that the substantive issues of infringement be arbitrated over two years ago, the last time I looked. At the same time, he granted the injunction I linked to above - one to which Isaacs agreed - directing that Isaacs knock off various acts of trademark infringement. We've been through this.

Arbitration records are of course not on PACER, but as of the dates of the last court submissions (December 2012) the arbitration was still ongoing. Judge Forrester got tired of carrying the case on his active docket. The final entry (January 16, 2013) is an order that concludes:
Accordingly, the Court, being otherwise fully and sufficiently advised, HEREBY ORDERS that this action shall be STRICKEN from the active docket of the Court. The defendants’ pending motion to dismiss [DE #86] is HEREBY DENIED AS MOOT.
Isaacs claims that the case was "dismissed". I guess "DENIED" is too big a word for him.
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