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This may sound petty, but I don't find Hansen's
legal troubles to be worth the $2.40 that PACER
charges for an audio download.
Fine with me.
To each his own.

I appreciate that you did put that first 8 minute hearing audio into the public square.

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http://www.speedyshare.com/Msrh9/gov.us ... 00.9.0.pdf
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Here's a YouTube presentation of what appears to be a recent interview with Kent Hovind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiJakn3 ... NzQL6KPLhA

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And now the Pensacola News Journal decides to give Kent some superficial coverage after ignoring the story for a long, long time!

http://www.pnj.com/story/news/2014/11/0 ... /18730293/

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Motion for Continuance/Consolidation in Hovind Case

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
PENSACOLA DIVISION

CASE NO. 3:14cr91/MCR

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

v.

KENT E. HOVIND

GOVERNMENT’S MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE

(excerpts)

COMES NOW the United States of America and requests a continuance of the jury trial now scheduled for jury selection on December 1, 2014, and as grounds for the request states:

2. ...It is the undersigned’s understanding that Hansen should be en route to the Northern District of Florida in the
very near future.

3. On October 30, 2014, Hovind was arraigned on the Indictment and a jury trial was scheduled for December 1, 2014. (Docs. 14-20).

4. Because the co-defendants are both charged in Counts One, Two, and Four of the Indictment, the government requests that Hovind’s trial be continued to the Court’s January trial docket with jury selection on January 5, 2015. The government further requests that Hovind and Hansen’s trials be consolidated.

6. Trying defendants Hansen and Hovind together would serve the ends of justice and judicial economy. Therefore, the United States asks this Court to continue Hovind’s trial and reschedule the case for jury selection to be held on January 5, 2015.

WHEREFORE, the undersigned Assistant United States Attorney files this motion with the Court.

Respectfully submitted,
PAMELA C. MARSH
United States Attorney

/s/ Tiffany H. Eggers
TIFFANY H. EGGERS
Assistant United States Attorney
Florida Bar Number 193968
21 E. Garden Street, Suite 400
Pensacola, Florida 32502-5675

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Hovind Media Blitz Today!

(1)

Stephen J. Anderson interviews Kent Hovind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-YAbQbpxV0

Stephen J. Anderson's recent notoriety
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/chris ... ents-death

(2)

Gea Ambrosia interviews Kent Hovind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSDRztx ... e=youtu.be

(3)

Gea Ambrosia interviews Ernie Land (DocFog) about Hovind matters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bChTJyU ... e=youtu.be

(4)

Pensacola News Journal Article Today
http://www.pnj.com/story/news/local/esc ... /18850377/

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There were many interesting points coming out of the various interviews.

Kent, referring to (St.) Paul’s legal problems and having renounced his own American citizenship some years ago, quotes Paul saying “Whoa. Whoa. I’m a Roman Citizen”. Irony, anyone?

Kent, when asked what his supporters can do to help, said “Do something practical like praying.”

Close Kent supporter Ernie (“Wake up and smell the RXcoffee”) Land on Eric Hovind: “He feels compelled to separate himself from his dad because of all the (legal issues)…..” which is what many of us have suspected for some time. Kent is determined not to lie down but Eric has a business ministry to run which is feeding all the extended family and he knows that he dare not run foul of the various churches which seek his product by supporting his father in his legal skirmishes.

Also, Ernie mentions Jo and her time of imprisonment “…something she could not face again.”. The subservient fundamentalist christian wife has asserted her own views and Kent is still not prepared to listen to them as they conflict with what he and God believes is right - for the bible tells me so.

At one point Kent proposes the public execution of rapists. He also mentioned his grandchildren twice and his children once. No mention of his wife, though.
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Samphire wrote:
Also, Ernie mentions Jo and her time of imprisonment “…something she could not face again.”. The subservient fundamentalist christian wife has asserted her own views and Kent is still not prepared to listen to them as they conflict with what he and God believes is right - for the bible tells me so.

At one point Kent proposes the public execution of rapists. He also mentioned his grandchildren twice and his children once.

No mention of his wife, though.
It does raise some questions as to where Eric really stands regarding his daddy's anti-government, anti-tax theology.

Seems interesting to me how Eric managed to put together, apparently, many thousands of dollars to buy back all that property and yet his daddy now has to go begging for his friends to raise money for a private lawyer so he can give up his free public defender (Kent said he free lawyer was doing a good job but one wonders how they are really getting along, especially with those interviews that the free lawyer may not have been aware of).

And then there is Jo!

I wonder how Jo and Gea are getting along these days. Gea brags about talking to Kent all the time and she broadcasts those interviews with him and all.

What is up with Jo!

Is it all a charade to protect the family image while Jo suffers silently. Maybe she is getting the help she needs but help that would not look so good if publicly exposed; at least no look so good for the Hovind machine.

The comments sections of the PNJ articles and the interview broadcasts indicate Hovind and his followers are a lot more radical than Hovind and some of his people would have us believe.

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Seems interesting to me how Eric managed to put together, apparently, many thousands of dollars to buy back all that property
Kent referred to the sale having gone through but nowhere mentioned that it was his own family which had purchased the properties. I would have thought that this would be a good point in his own defence so I am surprised that he didn’t mention it.

Furthermore, I doubt his lawyer thinks it a good idea for his client to broadcast to the world that public executions are just the ticket to deal with rapists when same client is shortly to appear before a federal judge who, a couple of years ago in a Statement to the US Sentencing Commission, wrote:
“Indeed, proportionality in sentencing is a bedrock principle requiring the punishment to fit the crime – an idea that is “deeply rooted and frequently repeated” in our jurisprudence. “.


and yet his daddy now has to go begging for his friends to raise money for a private lawyer so he can give up his free public defender (Kent said he free lawyer was doing a good job but one wonders how they are really getting along, especially with those interviews that the free lawyer may not have been aware of).
Kent’s legal history has been bedevilled by incompetent legal advice so it is surprising (or is it?) that over the last eight years some kind, sympathetic Christian lawyer hasn’t sought out Kent to assist. Perhaps they have but Kent just won’t take their advice.
Considering the latest antics, my theory that Kent does not want to go home to face the woman he sent to federal prison for a year appears to be holding up pretty well.
Perhaps Kent has heard that Jo has managed to recover from the IRS those six (or was it eight?) confiscated guns the ministry claimed to own and that they are all cocked and loaded.


If I was Kent I would be very wary of a judge of whom it is reported:
A couple years ago, she was at a youth soccer game (she presumes to run the program as if it's under her jurisdiction...), she got gonged on the head by an errant ball, while she was absorbed in a cell phone conversation. The resulting torrent of obscenities and temper tantrum were totally inconsistent with the conduct we expect of even the least capable occupants of the federal bench. In front of her kids and many others, to boot.
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Today's interview with Ernie Land:

http://wwfar.com/mp3s/CrossTheBorder/_C ... 220420.MP3

After the Ernie Land segment, there is a "chat" the host has and it features Gea Ambrosia who called in to plug her cause on behalf of Kent Hovind.

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The fundraising has begun for Kent's new legal defense fund using the YouCaring website.

You might find the first $250.00 donation and "challenge" of interest.

http://www.youcaring.com/other/kent-hov ... und/261659

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I will happily give a few dollars for all the self-indulgent righteous indignation Kent has allowed me over the years but will first wait to see how the fund accumulates.

Land has allowed 108 days to the end of the appeal which takes us towards the end of February, a little too late to start instructing a top quality lawyer. After a little searching on Google I was thinking of recommending fine Texas lawyers Diane Shaw (geddit?) and Associates but, unfortunately for my little joke, see that they specialise in medical rather than taxation issues.

One would have thought that with all Kent's thousands of poorly-educated supporters around the world quite a few of whom were personally poorly educated by Kent himself and backed by God's urgent wish for Kent to continue with his evangelising and bolstered by his new Iranian-inspired (collapsing?) platform of public executions the money would come pouring in in no time.

But what happens to the fund in the unlikely event that it only reaches a couple of $housand and is insufficient to provide adequate legal representation? I remember there was a similar fund set up a few years ago but, as with all Kent's financial affairs, no public reporting was given of its distribution. I think it irresponsible of God not to reveal to us what He does with all that money which Kent says he raises for Him. Perhaps Eric could help us.
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Paths of the Sea wrote:The fundraising has begun for Kent's new legal defense fund using the YouCaring website.

You might find the first $250.00 donation and "challenge" of interest.

http://www.youcaring.com/other/kent-hov ... und/261659

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Would that be Taxable income to Kent? I am not sure how these things are set up, or how a recipient receives the cash. I wonder if 1099's are issued by these companies? If they paid the funds directly to the Lawyer, for the benefit of Kent, and Kent receives the value of these services, how would this be reported to the IRS?
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HOVIND GETS NEW TRIAL DATE WITH HANSEN!

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
PENSACOLA DIVISION

CASE NO.: 3:14cr91/MCR

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

v.

KENT E. HOVIND

O R D E R

This matter is before the Court on the Government's Motion for Continuance, in which the Government also moves to join the Defendant with his co-defendant, Paul Hansen, for trial.

According to the Government, Hansen is in route or soon to be in route to this District from the District of Nebraska.

Upon consideration of the motion and the absence of any objection by the Defendant, the Court finds that Defendant should be
joined with his co-defendant for trial and, as a result, a continuance is appropriate. See 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(6).

Accordingly, the Government's Motion for Continuance is GRANTED.

The clerk shall re-notice the trial for Monday, January 5, 2015.

SO ORDERED this 13th day of November, 2014.

s/ M. Casey Rodgers
M. CASEY RODGERS
CHIEF UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE

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Samphire wrote:
I will happily give a few dollars for all the self-indulgent
righteous indignation Kent has allowed me over the years
but will first wait to see how the fund accumulates.
It will be interesting to see how that gimmick works out, especially in light of the first contributor's donation and "challenge".

Already it impresses me by who has not been seen to be contributing.

Maybe Peter scared them all off!
Maybe they really don't like DocFog (aka Ernest/Ernie Land)!

One of Kent's supporters noted in response to one of Peter's Forbes articles that Kent had millionaire supporters. They wouldn't need a legal defense fund if they wanted to fund a private lawyer for Kent.

Where are they?
What are the conspiring privately to do?

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Today's posting of another 2 segments of Kent's interview from the other day.

In this segment Kent hints at him testifying this time around and pushes the idea of jury nullification, among other things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqLFo-v ... e=youtu.be

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It all come back to a number of irreducible issues. Kent is a congenital, serial, and pathological liar who I don't believe is capable of telling the truth, an perhaps of even recognizing it when it presents itself, and I don't think he has ANY friends left after the way he has used them over the years,
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notorial dissent wrote:

It all come back to a number of irreducible issues. Kent is a congenital, serial, and pathological liar who I don't believe is capable of telling the truth, an perhaps of even recognizing it when it presents itself, and I don't think he has ANY friends left after the way he has used them over the years,

I saw a meme from the narcissist activists today that may have somewhat to do with such things as that.

As I recall, it went something like this:

"The only two things the narcissist
changes are the masks
and the victims."

I might also note that a day has passed without any new money being registered on Ernie Land's fundraising site for Kent's legal defense.

The count stands as $380.00, but I suspect there is a lot going on amongst Kent's co-conspirators as to how to finance a private lawyer.

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I'm intrigued by the semi-literate Ernie Land. According to his chubby partner Lowell Mims who is only half right in claiming to be "drinking RX Smart Coffee to Health and Wealth" the pair of them have made millions of dollars as distributors of the overpriced coffee which, if true, makes me wonder as to why Ernie hasn't yet contributed a substantial sum towards the very fund he has just set up.

Ernie's photo is at:

http://www.docfog.com/index.html

He has an identical English twin brother to be seen at:

http://tinyurl.com/ogqm46o

One of them is a comedic character but I am not sure which.
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On the "Health and Wealth" coffee page:
Disclaimer

These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.
Too bad there's no law requiring a disclaimer that the program is not known to make anyone wealthy beyond the people at the top.

Also, i note they avoid the term "multilevel marketing" and call it "network marketing".
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