For being a "NESARA Update" it has almost nothing about NESARA in it. Then again, the updates with lots of NESARA in them are fantasies about something that doesn't exist, so why should we care? Basically, Bellringer doesn't like Obama. Big surprise.
As for the correction, Bellringer didn't mean to say, "Obama has made a pack with the devil." but "Obama has mailed a packie with the devil." No doubt inside information from Poof.
N E S A R A UPDATE: November 10, 2008 by Patrick H. Bellringer
The signs of the times are ever stronger for all to read, but few there are with the wisdom to see them. Mother Earth is moving rapidly forward, creaking and shaking in preparation for her big bath. Most information about Earth changes is being kept from public view, so the general populace is unaware and do not prepare for such consequences.
Buildings, such as the school in Haiti, do not fall down all by themselves, and the big “snow” that hit the Black Hills of South Dakota and buried us in Rapid City was not normal weather. The weather across Mother Earth has been far from normal, and the heating of our planet by our more intense sun is creating major environmental changes that scientists are at a loss to explain. That is all in preparation for Mother Earth to be restored to her original pristine condition, when she graduates into 5D.
The Darkside marches on in their push for final world control. This is evidenced in the U.S. in the national election illusion of creating something better. As a stooge of the Rothschilds, Barack Obama was groomed from early on for his puppet role in bringing the U.S. under the One World Order control. The old Satanic trick was used again to make the people think that white is black and black is white. Little do the people know that, if time is allowed to run its course, the very “savior” they chose to rescue them will become the demagogue to destroy them.
Obama has made a pack with the devil. He will do as told by his Illuminati handler, Joe Biden, or he will be brought down and exposed for not meeting the lawful requirements of the office of the presidency. All is not as it seems on the “western front”.
Though to most people the future looks very bleak, those, who “know”, see the new day dawning in all its magnificent glory. The great promise is being fulfilled. The Light shall burst forth in the Darkness, and the Darkness shall not overcome it.
Rejoice, my friends, at the coming of the Light one last time on Earth Shan, never again to be in Darkness! The plans of the One World Order lay tattered on the dirty floor, as the Darkones flee in terror of the Light. It is happening! Expect the evidence of those things hoped for, for so long, but not seen, to be revealed to you this month, this week, and perhaps, even this very day!
As “Poof” wrote, quoting Frank Sinatra, “Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you, if you’re young at heart!”
In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer
----- Original Message -----
From: RM
To: "Bellringer" <bellringer@fourwinds10.com>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:36 PM
Subject: NESARA Update Nov. 10th......
Hi Patrick and Anne,
Thank you for this piece. However.. a quick correction perhaps?
'Obama has made a *pact* with the devil..' Is this what you mean to say?
It is slightly more plausible than a 'pack' anyway!
This is very interesting however.. that after 30 years of watching the Illuminati, of learning and seeing their games unfold, that I have at last been completely duped by the Obama 'nice guy' ploy.. I really thought he was a GOOD man, driven by a soul urge to CHANGE this World.. a born leader destined to finally knock the Illuminati from their pedestals of power and to restore a common and unified consciousness to all beings on Earth, based entirely upon a Love and Equality of all Souls.. whatever their skin colour or creed or nation.
How could I have been SO wrong?
Maybe I am not!
How are *you* so sure.. is this not the time of Great Light on Earth.. such Light that even the Joe Bidens of this world are free to change their course to that of the Lighted Path? Why is this so implausible to you?
I gravely hope you are finally and for once deeply mistaken! And I suspect that you in fact are!
I suppose our Faith is here to be tested. Time WILL now tell. Let us see what the next year brings.
With Love and Light and Truth
RM
FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer
TO: RM
DATE: Nov. 10, 2008
SUBJECT: Reply
Dear RM: Yes, pact (meaning bargain) is the word I intended, thank you, and no, I am not wrong about Obama. He is skilled at creating an illusion to fool the people of his true intent.
Look at his family history, his friends and associates and his present selections to assist in the "new" government. Look at his political track record of non-performance, and even his religious connections. All do not bode well for a man of "good intent".
The name of the game is discernment. Do you think the One World Order would give up so easily? Obama is their "Trojan Horse!"
In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer
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I think it's noteworthy (I almost used the word "amusing") that Obama is now being cast as tool of the Jewish Conspiracy when, only ten days ago, he was supposedly the thin entering wedge of the Islamic conspiracy and a danger to Israel.
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In Bellringer World both can be 100% true at the same time!fortinbras wrote:I think it's noteworthy (I almost used the word "amusing") that Obama is now being cast as tool of the Jewish Conspiracy when, only ten days ago, he was supposedly the thin entering wedge of the Islamic conspiracy and a danger to Israel.
----- Original Message -----
From: RM
To: "Bellringer" <bellringer@fourwinds10.com>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: NESARA Update Nov. 10th......
Dear Patrick,
Thanks for your reply.
Is it not the Illuminati themselves who have already struck the bargain (presumably for their souls?) with the devil?
I am not for one moment suggesting that the present Administration have yet 'given up'.. although they are indeed in somewhat 'deepening shit' even as we speak!
I suspect that they may have another emergency homeland disaster of 'catastrophic proportions' brewing up their horrible sleeves! May it fail utterly to materialise!
Please consider that conversely Obama may very well have used (and is continuing to use) 'his skills' to actually fool the Illuminati themselves! Feeding them just enough of what they want/need to hear, employing just enough of their fold, to succeed in keeping himself alive! A very complex and clever game. Once he himself in turn, gainPresidential 'executive powers' things will EITHER get quickly very much worse OR Patrick, very much better, I agree! But do we not generate our own realities? Is it not wiser to remain optimistic, at least to your public, in these sensitive, important and unique times? Our collective future now depends upon it.
I pray for the best outcomes!
Love and Light and Truth,
RM
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FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer
TO: RM
DATE: Nov. 10, 2008
SUBJECT: Reply
Dewar RM:
If you think that I am a pessimist, you do not know me. I am an optimist, but not about Obama. Be wise and judge to know your enemy (Law number 12 of The Laws of God and Creation, Phoenix Journal #27).
Obama could be a saint, but he is totally under the control of the Illuminati, and can do nothing but what he is told to do. To do otherwise would be his death! These people are ruthless. You are naive to think otherwise.
In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer
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----- Original Message -----
From: TS
To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:35 PM
Subject: The future, as I see it.
N E S A R A UPDATE: November 10, 2008 by Patrick H. Bellringer
I have a feeling Obama is being put in power to do to the USA what the dark ones did with Stalin during the Russian revolution. Gut the middle class and only the elite and the poor are left. Move the jobs to other countries and the middleclass disappears.
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FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer
TO: TS
DATE: Nov. 10, 2008
SUBJECT: Reply
Dear TS:
You are correct in your thinking, but there is much more planned for the people of the U.S. than what you say, should the One World Order be allowed free reign under Barak Obama. This plan of destruction and world control by any means has been in place for a very long time, and Obama is another important link in the "chain" to bind us. May that "chain" be soon broken forever.
In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer
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----- Original Message -----
From: F
To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:00 PM
Subject: WAKE UP AMERICA - they are trying to con us again....
WAKE UP AMERICA - they are trying to con us again...
Come on people. You have been fleeced and robbed by the elites through every form of counterfeiting and manipulation imaginable, to the point America, nay the world as a whole, is on the verge of total economic meltdown. The engineered meltdown has put us in the final stages of the New World Order’s clandestine takeover, where instead of Hitler’s or Stalin’s militaristic approaches, we have the more sublime international bankers’ approach of conquering through corruption and forced poverty. Rest assured, once the financial strength has been sapped away, as it has now or soon shall be, THEN the bankers will call on their puppets in government to use the military to finalize their agenda - only after they have you weakened.
We are losing our wealth and much of our power to resist tyranny by way of thieves being permitted, and ENCOURAGED to steal from us by our own government elites, with naked short selling on Wall Street, bogus land grabs by multi-national corporations, unbacked gold certificates, trillions lost in failed banks and insurance companies, obscene government waste, the destruction of our currency with the Feds wild printing press mentality, freebies to illegal aliens and foreign elites, and so much more. They substitute their bogus IOU's in for the real assets and leave us with nothing. Next on the table is the federal government’s confiscation of all your private retirement accounts and a burdensome United Nations property tax on your home. Add to the fact that our education system is teaching NOTHING about what the real issues are in the world, and the world’s biggest whores in our complicit mass media are disguising it all to facilitate the agenda of the enemies of freedom, and you have a recipe for a dictatorial world government like never seen before.
However, as the twilight of the age of freedom draws ever near, I stand amused at the shills for the New World Order in the form of the media, Internet bloggers and even posters on Fourwinds10 trying to keep you deceived until the very end. They speak of a "New Age" of freedom being restored upon us and NESARA and the like. There are discussions of trillions of dollars scheduled for "deliveries tomorrow" and money is "soon coming," and it will be distributed "next week," and justice will be brought to the elites and their political whores who caused this mess. For endless reasons ranging from "my dog ate my homework" to "they forgot a signature," the promises of financial justice never seem to be fulfilled. People, if you believe all of these stories, will you do me a little favor? Will you go get your head examined? Hell, if you are going to buy that nonsense, I have a delightful piece of swampland at the South Pole to sell you at a great price.
Although nothing would thrill me more to see some justice dealt out, logically, if the bad guys have had freedom to steal with the government's blind eye of enforcement and regulators acting like a 2nd rate Inspector Clouseau, what on earth would force them to pay Americans anything? Am I wrong - maybe. I hope I am, but sadly, I strongly doubt it.
People, the elites have been playing us for a long time. The takedown of the United States has been engineered and we are in the final stages of full scale implementation of the dictatorial New World Order. Although it thrills me and lifts my spirits that America has come so far, that it could see past race and elect a man of color to the highest office in the land, it terrifies me that he is a complete U.N. supporting socialist and international bankers' front man, and his policies implemented in the US will make the old Soviet Union look like a land of true freedom. Bush took us down financially on one side of the coin and Obama will take it from here with hard-line socialism - each of them working as "heads and tails" representing the same coin - each of them working for the same puppet masters to achieve the same exact goals of a dictatorial one world government.
Again, the one world government is not going to be a godly one, nor one promoting freedoms, like freedom of speech and religion or private gun ownership. It will be a return to feudalism, with a very elect few wealthier than God and the rest of us (if we are permitted to live), begging for scraps. Be sure to contemplate the ramifications of a nation’s elites stripping away the financial and political freedoms of their people and taking their guns as it has already occurred in history. It has never once been pretty for the people, only for the elites. The only problem is that in the past, the people of nations like Germany, Italy, Japan, France and other victims of tyranny, had a strong and freedom-minded USA as a backbone of their liberty. Who will take up the gauntlet now that the USA itself is the one being subjugated to tyranny?
If things develop as they appear to be developing, if ever there were a more applicable time to heed the Word of God, "flee to the hills so that your pursuers will not find you." it just might soon be the call of the day.
Blessings to you all and my greatest hope is that as the men with the blue helmets come, you are able to extract the maximum price from them for their betrayal of humanity and their evil tyranny, for as a wise man once said, "it is better to die on your feet than to live groveling on your knees."
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FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer
TO: F
DATE: Nov. 10, 2008
SUBJECT: Reply
Dear F:
I applaud you for your ability to capture the Dark intent in the swirling events of our times and record them for all to understand. Truly, this is the "Age of Darkness". You paint a most accurate picture of the Darkness, but what hope do you offer to desperate and struggling people? You claim the Word of God is to "flee to the hills" with our guns and survival kits and hide.
Is our only hope to hide, for t0 "take up the gauntlet" and stand against our foes would mean certain death? You offer gloom and doom, but no hope! Why? You trash Fourwinds in your ignorance. You ridicule NESARA and scoff at the prospect of the stolen money being returned to the people to provide abundance in place of poverty. Why?
Could it be that the "Word" you are quoting is from the wrong God, from God Jehovah Satan? Could it be that you, like so many others, have followed the wrong God right into Satan's trap of disbelief? God Jehovah Satan is not a Creator God, only a deceiver, a trickster, who fools the people through lies and deceit to produce the negativity of Shadow, of Darkness. Darkness blinds both eye and heart from seeing the Light.
My brother, Fourwinds stands, as a Lighthouse to the world. It proclaims the Truth, the Light of Creator God Aton, God of lLght to the world. It stands against the Darkness and proclaims the mystery, the hope, the miracle of Light conquering the Darkness, that few understand. It offers the message of the Phoenix Journals of freedom of body and soul, that you have missed.
That message is not one of gloom and doom. It is a message of hope and of freedom and of victory over Darkness. This great nation and her people shall not be allowed to succumb to the Darkness. In spite of what you say, we shall not "return to feudalism".
There are those, who have understood the power of their Spirit within, and are using their power to defeat the Darkones and destroy their New World Order plans. These Lightworkers are not "fleeing to the hills", or groveling on their knees or even dying on their feet. With the wisdom and power of The Light, they are creating miracles.
I emphatically state that Creator God Aton of Light always wins, every time. As a part of Aton's Plan, NESARA shall be accomplished, and the "windows of Heaven" shall open and pour out an overflowing blessing of money, right on your doubting head.
Oh, ye of little faith, had you read and understood the message of the Phoenix Journals, you would not be a blind leader of the blind today. Use the Light to find your pathway, my friend, so that you. too, can stand with us upon the roof top and proclaim victory to all the world! You, too, can be a "Bellringer" and a Lighthouse to the world.
Victory is here, not gloom and doom! Know it!
In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer
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----- Original Message -----
From: F
To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: WAKE UP AMERICA - they are trying to con us again....
Hi Patrick,
I appreciate your optimism, but I ask you to consider a few issues.
The elitists control both sides of the equation in America, the right and the left. Evidence? Obama just started appointing cabinet members from the same cast of characters as the former presidents. Zbigniew Brzezinski, a confident and right-hand man of David Rockefeller (one of the most evil men and greatest enemy of America on the face of the earth), has 2 sons - one the close advisor to McCain and the other, the close advisor to Obama (more like overseers). Obama has been funded with mob money and is loyal to the elite bankers, voting for the bailout, taking massive contributions form Wall Street and never standing up against them in favor of the common man even once during his time as a senator. He is loyal to the federal government as a supreme governmental body in the USA and the UN as a power over the USA. He has advocated 1% of our annual GNP as a unaccounted gift to the UN, he has supported every abortion rights bill on earth, some advocating death of the unwanted child AFTER the child is born. He wants not to get rid of the unconstitutional income tax, but instead, increase it. He wants to target private retirement accounts, having the criminal federal government confiscate all that money to place under their pitiful control. Obama does not advocate private gun ownership and has said that gun control will be on his agenda. He has openly said America is not a Christian nation anymore and should not be acting as one. I could go on and on, but do I really need to? Please understand that I do not hate the man in any manner, and I genuinely pray for him and his family, their safety, and for him to listen to and act upon God's wisdom. It is just that his policies and moreso his real bosses are obvious, and they do not lend to a re-strengthing of the constitution in this nation, but its' further destruction.
Patrick, I call it as I see it. I do not see hope as equating with reality. Although it is really neat to see a man of color as the President of the USA, it is not the color of the man that counts - it never has. It is the character of the man. He now has totally socialist control of the congress and because of that fact, the character of America is about to change radically.
People can read the Phoenix Journals and the writings of the rest of the people who promote these incredible future events all they like, but the facts are the facts. As to NESARA, I have spoken to Ron Paul's top advisors, and they have told me it is not true. As to the end of the Federal Reserve Banking System, it is a hoax. The Fed went under the Treasury Department earlier this year, but the entire US Banking system went under the control of a world-wide central bank in Basel II. Additionally, the bailout money, if from a true government-owned central bank, would not have to have been borrowed - merely printed. I have called 6 top-level congressional advisors in Washington and 5 of the 6 personally told me that the Federal Government would definitely collapse (one said within a few months - others within 2 years) and the 6th person was too frightened to discuss the subject matter on the phone. Those who would respond also told me that it is likely that social services would fail, including all federal government assistance and that food riots and martial law is likely. Lastly, the use of UN Troops is also likely as assistance to keep the place under control. Do you know what has happened in nations plagued by the use of UN Troops? Listen to Al Cuppett, former high ranking US Military officer, talk about the use of UN Troops as peace keepers. http://www.arcticbeacon.com/index-newbe ... -0100.html Better listen in the near future because I am confident this interview will not be available for long. I could go on, but there is really no need.
As for the hope to readers, I have said it before and I will happily say it again - the only hope is ONLY in Jesus Christ. I will likely stand my ground and take out as many blue-helmeted traitors to humanity that I can, but even God's Word indicates that careful planning is in order for times such as these. Please remember, I did not tell people to run for the hills, but I did say that the time might be near - a big difference. People need to watch very closely and be prepared to make a move, if it is warranted and if they have a planned place to go. Bad advice? Pessimistic? When a tsunami is coming to towards the beach that I have seen coming, is it better for me to warn people to get to high ground or should I refrain from giving warnings due to hope in a future that the facts of the moment betray as highly unlikely or even impossible?
Patrick, I know that there are many mis-information sites and sources out there on the net, some intentionally and some not so. I do not try to be a misinformation source, but to give a realistic warning when facing what can only be deemed as an approaching economic disaster, in my opinion is prudent. I would hope that you post my message, your email to me (excluding names) and my response, to give a full picture to the readers. I do not mean to bag any information sources on Fourwinds10, I am just calling it as I see it. I pray with all my heart that my insights are incorrect and I will be the first one to dance with joy, but only after I have apologized to anyone my opinions have offended.
I wish you well.
F
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FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer
TO: F
DATE: Nov. 11, 2008
SUBJECT: Reply
Dear F:
It is not optimism, my friend, but wisdom and knowing! I have only three comments in response to your epistle.
1. You may dismiss the message from Creator God Aton of Light presented to us for our time in the Phoenix Journals, as garbage, and you can hang onto your Bible, which Aton calls "Satan's War Book", because of its many distortions of the Truth, but you shall do so to your own demise.
2. Do you think Ron Paul's people are going to talk about NESARA, when they are under a life-threatening U.S. Supreme Court gag order to not do so?
3. You say our only hope is in Jesus Christ, that we are to kill in the name of Christ? Right! Such nonsense! You must have been one of the great Christian Crusaders. I prefer using the power of my God Spirit within through which I have Divine Protection. Anne and I have demonstrated that it works. We and Fourwinds would not be here without it. By the way, we have no physical weapons of any kind.
I am reminded of the words, "those who take up the sword, shall die by the sword".
In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer
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----- Original Message ----
-From: JD
To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:48 PM
Subject: about barack
Dear Patrick,
The discussions in "Hello Central" got my attention.
I just have to jump in.
Everything about Barack Obama reeks of Annanuki energy.
He did not have to make a pact with the devil.HE IS, up to today.
He might change, I hope so.
I have been reading many channelled materials
from " high level " entities extolling his elevation to the
US presidency. They claim he will turn around and do the
right thing for this nation. The Messaiah.
When I look at B Obama and try to dovetail the channelled
material about him, there is nothing in that space for me
but a ferocious headache.
There is a cosmic law that says "The path
is the same as the destination." It means that I cannot have
a happy ending (go to heaven) when the path that I chose is
filled with lies, decei,t pain and discord imposed on others.
I am compelled to balance those negatives. It took us many
many years to do this.
He will do this in a twinkling of an eye?
There are claims that his higher self will "take over" so that
"he could fulfil the mandates of Heaven " I said, "are you serious?"
Has anyone experienced spiritual descension? I have seen some
and I experience it myself 2 years ago. Believe me... I was sooo
disoriented. I threw away all my worldly belongings and became
a nomad, not understanding what was happening to me. Those who
claim to be "walk-ins"are very dysfunctional like little babies trying
to function in an adult world. On top of this,they have to
transmute all previous karmas like everybody else. Some never
got to do their mission because of this. And Barack will do this
as soon as???? oh my..............
Having said that, my next question is, who are these "upper
dimensional cheerleaders"?
Is it possible that they are made of the same Annanuki energy?
Is it possible that they are saying these so that those under the law
of karma will be lulled to sleep, until...too late.? All these karmas
will have to be resolved at faster and faster speed, thru Grace
or perhaps thru this, what we are staring at.
Although I recognize that this is the divine game,
I feel uneasy and helpless everytime I meet and speak to one of
these sheeples that I have urged those who are receptive,
"Go to fourwinds10 so that you will know what is going on, GET GUNS
teach your children how to use the gun, FORM A MILITIA before doing
all the other good stuff. Who knows, things may get better and you will
not need to use it,but as of today,.............. better safe than sorry.
God help us all.
In light and love,
JD
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FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer
TO: JD
DATE: Nov. 11, 2008
SUBJECT: Reply
Dear JD:
Thank you for your response.
I say the same thing to you. Why do so-called Christians want to try and save themselves with swords and guns and militia? Is that what is meant by the "Army of God"? Ernest W. Shurtleff (1862-1917) wrote, "For not with swords loud clashing, nor roll of stirring drums, with deeds of love and mercy, the Heavenly Kingdom comes."
Today's Christians have it all wrong. They want to be macho physical warriors and destroy their foes, but in Truth they are spiritually gutless. The great men of old, such as Joshua and Gideon and Daniel were spiritual giants, who used their spiritual power to create the miracles that swords and stones could never do. Where are the true Christian warriors today?
In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer
----- Original Message -----
From: Sa
To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:35 AM
Subject: 'Hello, Central!' NESARA Update, Nov. 10, 2008: You are Mistaken! (Obama)
Hi!
It seems that the "new age" community is split on the Obama issue. Please allow me to put forward my "two cents of change" on this issue.
So far the impact of Obama has been uplifting. He has spread hope where there used to be hopelessness. He has raised many peoples vibration, and this again impacts Mass Consciousness. However, it can be argued that this is "false hope", and that the dark cabal will get peoples hope up before they "crush it" again with a devastating blow. However, I do not think this is the case, and here is why:
What is left of the dark cabal is clearly on the defensive. They have more than enough with trying to grab funds, and bribe people etc. Their whole "global warming agenda" which it was "so crucial to deal with immediatly" seems to have fizzeled away alltogether. All reports/signs points to the fact that huge changes are right around the corner.
Changes for the upliftment of mankind, and for more overall balance.
It's not so much about the one person Obama, it is more about what he represents. He is the tip of the iceberg of Lightworkers that work behind the scene to bring about these massive changes. A tip that has now become visible for many to see, and some to doubt. Kennedy was also a Lightworker who incarnated into an illuminati family.
That is how the Light infiltrates after all. You have to pass for "one of them" in order to get anywhere. When the time is ripe, which will be very soon, the high integrity of Obama will be visible for all to see. The New is growing out of the crumbling "old world order". I feel that Obama is an expression of this New, and that this is where his Heart truly is. "Playing along to get along" is necessary at this stage in the game. Soon he will not be bound by that anymore. Let's at least give the New and Good a chance, and see what happens. So far, so good.
In the Light,
Sa
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----- Original Message -----
From: LU
To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:03 PM
Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10
Message:
If anyone would research the people that Obama has surrounded himself with and plans to bring into his administration, they would discover the horrors of what these people have done. Obama has appointed Rahum Emanuel for his Chief of Staff. This man has been involved in nefarious plots for GHWBush going back for years. In Emanuel\'s book that he wrote a few years back, he talks of a mandatory plan for America\'s youth to spend from age 18 to 25, in \'government service\', very frighteningly similar to Hitlers Youth Group back during WW2. And this is where Obama has gotten, or was given this idea he recently speaks of about implementing a program where all of America\'s youth must spend at least three years \'serving government\'. This is horrendous.
Obama wants Lawrence Summers for Secretary of US Treasury. Summers was Secy Treasury before, under Bill Clinton, right after Summers played a key role in REMOVING the Glass Steagall Act in 1999, which was the protective shield against vast corruption in the banks and money houses preventing them from manipulations, accounting schemes and insider trading, which caused over 5,000 banks and Wall St to crash in 1929. Summers spearheaded the Financial Services Modernization Act, of 1999 under Clinton which transfered the entire US financial services of insurance co\'s, pension funds, securities co\'s and other, over to a handfull of financial conglomerates and their associated Hedge Funds. Since that time.....look what has happened. We are now in a financial meltdown thanks to Summers and others like him. Summers was chief economist for the World Bank....his actions were so devastating, the results were mass poverty to developing countries. Summers is known for his idea of dumping toxic waste onto 3rd world countries because those people have shorter lives and low market values, so it would be cost effective to dump all toxic waste over there.
Summers and others like Paul Volker, Timothy Geithner and Jon Corzine are who Obama is looking at to \"get us out of the mess\"....but it is they who were involved in perpetratiing this mess to begin with! Some of them like Summers and Corzine were CEO\'s of Goldman Sachs. Summers is currently employed at Goldman\'s as their Hedge Fund manager!
All these people have done in their careers is destroy countries and non elitists and steal and pillage. Obama\'s choices are a spectre of death to America\'s economy because that is what they do...destroy economy for personal profit and care not for humanity and work against citizens. Obama\'s choices alone should warn you.
Obama was always known as a fence sitter in Illinois, notable for nothing at all. He sometimes warmed a seat. Suddenly he appears with tons of banker money and runs for president. He has far too many globalist financial fascists hands up his ass directing him to be anything but darkness. And no, he cant get rid of them and suddenly be the white knight. He\'s already taken the sewer bath, its too late and his choices prove that.
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----- Original Message -----
From: EW
To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:14 AM
Subject: 'Hello, Central!' NESARA Update, Nov. 10, 2008: You are Mistaken!
Greetings Patrick,
My sources go along with what RM has written.
If Obama is a 'trojan horse', he is being greeted by the cheering crowd
in the courtyard of the Illuminati's castle, not in the bastions of
'Free America'. But, you have to remember that the Illuminati controlled
Electoral College doesn't get to make Obama President until December 15th.
So, the Trojan Horse must continue to look like a gift from the Puppet Master
of the Illuminati until at least December 15th, or even January 20 (Inaguration
day). And then, the wraps can come off, and the invasion for truth and justice
can begin - "The CHANGE".
You seem to negatate the presence of 'angellic' protection, if Obama is who
he has been reported to be.
The Zetas' report on Obama this last seems to confirm Obama, if you accept
the Zetas as being authentic and a source of factual truth.
From: http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta482.htm
Question:
Some say Obama will eliminate free speech on talk radio that
is conservative, and that he will make any negative comment about
anything "hate speech" punishable as felonies, and that he will
either eliminate guns and ammo or tax ammo beyond anything affordable.
How do you see Obama and the 1st and 2nd amendment? [and from another]
In the last several days before the election both Obama'a grandmother
in Kenya and Kenya newspapers stated unequivocally that Obama was
born in Kenya. Yet to my knowledge no US court has thrown out an
elected candidate in US History. So the Supreme Court is considering
the Berg case, how will that work out? [and from another] What is
with the images of Obama with a halo, in priestly garments, giving
blessings, with christian symbols and votive candles sold with him
on it looking like the Messiah. He joked he was born in a manger.
Does he honestly believe and do the Zetas treat him like a Messiah?
Or is this a white lie and he is the Anti-Christ? I hear both sides
argued even now after the election. Why is that in the equation?
Response from Zetas (Through Nancy L.)
We will not take the time to respond to every silly rumor about Obama
that has been floated on the Internet. He taught law at the University
level, and understands the constitution better than most. Fear mongering
was used by the Republicans during the general election, and these charges
should be seen for what they are. Lies were spread about his legal status
as a citizen, with an attempt at a court case to cloud his status as the
Democratic nominee, attempting to force the Democratic party to accept
Clinton instead. This did not fly. For those who are fools and truly
cannot embrace change, the Anti-Christ rumor was supplied.
And:
Question:
Does Obama suspect that he is a star child? Was his "séance gaffe"
a hint to his personal beliefs? He is known to be inspired by Lincoln;
GMS has written that Obama is Lincoln reincarnated. Is GMS correct, or
was he more or less speaking figuratively?
Response from Zetas:
Obama was also Lincoln, as is obvious to many. Most Star Children recognize
early that they are different, and sense the reason why. In Obama's case,
he was a walk-in during his teens, so was able to chose the body and life
circumstances for his mission. In such cases, where a walk-in occurs, the
human body and mind sense a change, and seek an answer for this, arriving
at the conclusion that they have a new soul within. unquote
Ruth Montgomery - psychic of the 1970s - 80s explains 'walk-ins' as advanced
souls who have a mission, and take over a body where the resident soul is about
to return, (for various reasons) to the spirit world. It is most interesting
that a concept she learned from her spirit guides 40 or so years would be
used in this Zeta response, and mean exactly the same thing.
You can find the Ruth Montgomery interview here where she predicts a
"walk-in President":
http://www.catholicrevelations.org/PR/r ... gomery.htm
I realize that you are fully convinced that Obama is totally evil,
but, please, wait and see before final condemnation and judgment.
EW
(Reply)
----- Original Message -----
From: T
To: Patrick Bellringer
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:51 PM
Subject: 'Hello, Central!' NESARA Update, Nov. 10, 2008: You are Mistaken! (Updated Nov. 10, 2008)
You people are just not getting it!!!
(from Aton)
"Chelas, the Light triumphs either way. If the NESARA Mission is accomplished, the Light wins. If Mother Earth moves into her birthing right, the Light has won. The evil ones cannot survive in salt water. "
And...
"Her movement into 5th dimension goes forth each day. This is the only equation that would interrupt the NESARA Mission, if she chooses to move into 5th dimension before the Mission is completed. The threats of continuous war using nuclear weapons is greater than it was back in the 1990’s. That is why we are still on Red, Red Alert waiting for that evacuation moment. That, too, is momentary."
And...
"Mother Earth is birthing into 5th Dimension and is not delaying in this process. She has been granted the right to move into her higher dimension for she has done her mission, and has passed all her tests."
And... (from Violinio)
"We have come to help, as the Lightworkers have requested such, and to evacuate those, who wish to board our ships to safety, when Mother Earth’s cleansing starts in earnest, and it is not safe to stay upon her surface."
And...
"We are here to help when asked, but more so to evacuate those from Shan, when the birthing of Mother Earth into 5th dimension starts in earnest. This would be the physical pole shift of Shan that has occurred many times in the past. This time, however, Mother Earth has been granted permission to move into 5th dimension. That time, chela, is very soon, for we are on Red, Red Alert."
And...
"I have been actively working with those responsible to get the packets to the people and to help with the NESARA announcement. It is not my job to do it for you, but to help those, who have asked for my help. The job shall be done in spite of the opposition of the Darkside, for they shall never win against goodness. This move to goodness is to happen very soon. I have no exact date, but the timing and sequence are in order, and despite the present Darkside opposition, that shall be overcome, and the move to implement NESARA shall happen quickly.
Will there be time after the funding for years of clean-up and restoring of Mother Earth? I do not know, for it depends upon Mother Earth. She is the one to decide, when her birthing into 5th dimension occurs. From all signs of the times, that moment is quite near."
***********************************
How much clearer than this can they get??? There is going to be a pole shift, the planet is doing her thing now. We have been seeing the signs for months now!!! We don't have much longer to wait. We need to stop focusing on the illusion and see the reality of what is happening now!!!
NESARA will get done, the planet will begin her shift, everyone will be evacuated and sorted out later, and then life goes on. It will take at least 15 years for the planet to calm down after her Cleansing, and we will let her do her thing. That is her way to recycle herself. And she is good at it. This isn't a normal shift, she is also going to the 5th dimension, so everyone needs to evacuate.
Schoolhouse Earth/Shan will be closed for renovations. She has earned a rest! And she will get it.
And we will not be here. So don't worry about Obama or their plans. NONE of it will be able to happen. THEY HAVE LOST!!!
It's over. I thank you, Patrick and Anne!!!
T
From: F
To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: WAKE UP AMERICA - they are trying to con us again....
Hi Patrick,
I appreciate your optimism, but I ask you to consider a few issues.
The elitists control both sides of the equation in America, the right and the left. Evidence? Obama just started appointing cabinet members from the same cast of characters as the former presidents. Zbigniew Brzezinski, a confident and right-hand man of David Rockefeller (one of the most evil men and greatest enemy of America on the face of the earth), has 2 sons - one the close advisor to McCain and the other, the close advisor to Obama (more like overseers). Obama has been funded with mob money and is loyal to the elite bankers, voting for the bailout, taking massive contributions form Wall Street and never standing up against them in favor of the common man even once during his time as a senator. He is loyal to the federal government as a supreme governmental body in the USA and the UN as a power over the USA. He has advocated 1% of our annual GNP as a unaccounted gift to the UN, he has supported every abortion rights bill on earth, some advocating death of the unwanted child AFTER the child is born. He wants not to get rid of the unconstitutional income tax, but instead, increase it. He wants to target private retirement accounts, having the criminal federal government confiscate all that money to place under their pitiful control. Obama does not advocate private gun ownership and has said that gun control will be on his agenda. He has openly said America is not a Christian nation anymore and should not be acting as one. I could go on and on, but do I really need to? Please understand that I do not hate the man in any manner, and I genuinely pray for him and his family, their safety, and for him to listen to and act upon God's wisdom. It is just that his policies and moreso his real bosses are obvious, and they do not lend to a re-strengthing of the constitution in this nation, but its' further destruction.
Patrick, I call it as I see it. I do not see hope as equating with reality. Although it is really neat to see a man of color as the President of the USA, it is not the color of the man that counts - it never has. It is the character of the man. He now has totally socialist control of the congress and because of that fact, the character of America is about to change radically.
People can read the Phoenix Journals and the writings of the rest of the people who promote these incredible future events all they like, but the facts are the facts. As to NESARA, I have spoken to Ron Paul's top advisors, and they have told me it is not true. As to the end of the Federal Reserve Banking System, it is a hoax. The Fed went under the Treasury Department earlier this year, but the entire US Banking system went under the control of a world-wide central bank in Basel II. Additionally, the bailout money, if from a true government-owned central bank, would not have to have been borrowed - merely printed. I have called 6 top-level congressional advisors in Washington and 5 of the 6 personally told me that the Federal Government would definitely collapse (one said within a few months - others within 2 years) and the 6th person was too frightened to discuss the subject matter on the phone. Those who would respond also told me that it is likely that social services would fail, including all federal government assistance and that food riots and martial law is likely. Lastly, the use of UN Troops is also likely as assistance to keep the place under control. Do you know what has happened in nations plagued by the use of UN Troops? Listen to Al Cuppett, former high ranking US Military officer, talk about the use of UN Troops as peace keepers. http://www.arcticbeacon.com/index-newbe ... -0100.html Better listen in the near future because I am confident this interview will not be available for long. I could go on, but there is really no need.
As for the hope to readers, I have said it before and I will happily say it again - the only hope is ONLY in Jesus Christ. I will likely stand my ground and take out as many blue-helmeted traitors to humanity that I can, but even God's Word indicates that careful planning is in order for times such as these. Please remember, I did not tell people to run for the hills, but I did say that the time might be near - a big difference. People need to watch very closely and be prepared to make a move, if it is warranted and if they have a planned place to go. Bad advice? Pessimistic? When a tsunami is coming to towards the beach that I have seen coming, is it better for me to warn people to get to high ground or should I refrain from giving warnings due to hope in a future that the facts of the moment betray as highly unlikely or even impossible?
Patrick, I know that there are many mis-information sites and sources out there on the net, some intentionally and some not so. I do not try to be a misinformation source, but to give a realistic warning when facing what can only be deemed as an approaching economic disaster, in my opinion is prudent. I would hope that you post my message, your email to me (excluding names) and my response, to give a full picture to the readers. I do not mean to bag any information sources on Fourwinds10, I am just calling it as I see it. I pray with all my heart that my insights are incorrect and I will be the first one to dance with joy, but only after I have apologized to anyone my opinions have offended.
I wish you well.
F
(Response)
FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer
TO: F
DATE: Nov. 11, 2008
SUBJECT: Reply
Dear F:
It is not optimism, my friend, but wisdom and knowing! I have only three comments in response to your epistle.
1. You may dismiss the message from Creator God Aton of Light presented to us for our time in the Phoenix Journals, as garbage, and you can hang onto your Bible, which Aton calls "Satan's War Book", because of its many distortions of the Truth, but you shall do so to your own demise.
2. Do you think Ron Paul's people are going to talk about NESARA, when they are under a life-threatening U.S. Supreme Court gag order to not do so?
3. You say our only hope is in Jesus Christ, that we are to kill in the name of Christ? Right! Such nonsense! You must have been one of the great Christian Crusaders. I prefer using the power of my God Spirit within through which I have Divine Protection. Anne and I have demonstrated that it works. We and Fourwinds would not be here without it. By the way, we have no physical weapons of any kind.
I am reminded of the words, "those who take up the sword, shall die by the sword".
In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer
(Reply)
----- Original Message ----
-From: JD
To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:48 PM
Subject: about barack
Dear Patrick,
The discussions in "Hello Central" got my attention.
I just have to jump in.
Everything about Barack Obama reeks of Annanuki energy.
He did not have to make a pact with the devil.HE IS, up to today.
He might change, I hope so.
I have been reading many channelled materials
from " high level " entities extolling his elevation to the
US presidency. They claim he will turn around and do the
right thing for this nation. The Messaiah.
When I look at B Obama and try to dovetail the channelled
material about him, there is nothing in that space for me
but a ferocious headache.
There is a cosmic law that says "The path
is the same as the destination." It means that I cannot have
a happy ending (go to heaven) when the path that I chose is
filled with lies, decei,t pain and discord imposed on others.
I am compelled to balance those negatives. It took us many
many years to do this.
He will do this in a twinkling of an eye?
There are claims that his higher self will "take over" so that
"he could fulfil the mandates of Heaven " I said, "are you serious?"
Has anyone experienced spiritual descension? I have seen some
and I experience it myself 2 years ago. Believe me... I was sooo
disoriented. I threw away all my worldly belongings and became
a nomad, not understanding what was happening to me. Those who
claim to be "walk-ins"are very dysfunctional like little babies trying
to function in an adult world. On top of this,they have to
transmute all previous karmas like everybody else. Some never
got to do their mission because of this. And Barack will do this
as soon as???? oh my..............
Having said that, my next question is, who are these "upper
dimensional cheerleaders"?
Is it possible that they are made of the same Annanuki energy?
Is it possible that they are saying these so that those under the law
of karma will be lulled to sleep, until...too late.? All these karmas
will have to be resolved at faster and faster speed, thru Grace
or perhaps thru this, what we are staring at.
Although I recognize that this is the divine game,
I feel uneasy and helpless everytime I meet and speak to one of
these sheeples that I have urged those who are receptive,
"Go to fourwinds10 so that you will know what is going on, GET GUNS
teach your children how to use the gun, FORM A MILITIA before doing
all the other good stuff. Who knows, things may get better and you will
not need to use it,but as of today,.............. better safe than sorry.
God help us all.
In light and love,
JD
(Response)
FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer
TO: JD
DATE: Nov. 11, 2008
SUBJECT: Reply
Dear JD:
Thank you for your response.
I say the same thing to you. Why do so-called Christians want to try and save themselves with swords and guns and militia? Is that what is meant by the "Army of God"? Ernest W. Shurtleff (1862-1917) wrote, "For not with swords loud clashing, nor roll of stirring drums, with deeds of love and mercy, the Heavenly Kingdom comes."
Today's Christians have it all wrong. They want to be macho physical warriors and destroy their foes, but in Truth they are spiritually gutless. The great men of old, such as Joshua and Gideon and Daniel were spiritual giants, who used their spiritual power to create the miracles that swords and stones could never do. Where are the true Christian warriors today?
In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer
----- Original Message -----
From: Sa
To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:35 AM
Subject: 'Hello, Central!' NESARA Update, Nov. 10, 2008: You are Mistaken! (Obama)
Hi!
It seems that the "new age" community is split on the Obama issue. Please allow me to put forward my "two cents of change" on this issue.
So far the impact of Obama has been uplifting. He has spread hope where there used to be hopelessness. He has raised many peoples vibration, and this again impacts Mass Consciousness. However, it can be argued that this is "false hope", and that the dark cabal will get peoples hope up before they "crush it" again with a devastating blow. However, I do not think this is the case, and here is why:
What is left of the dark cabal is clearly on the defensive. They have more than enough with trying to grab funds, and bribe people etc. Their whole "global warming agenda" which it was "so crucial to deal with immediatly" seems to have fizzeled away alltogether. All reports/signs points to the fact that huge changes are right around the corner.
Changes for the upliftment of mankind, and for more overall balance.
It's not so much about the one person Obama, it is more about what he represents. He is the tip of the iceberg of Lightworkers that work behind the scene to bring about these massive changes. A tip that has now become visible for many to see, and some to doubt. Kennedy was also a Lightworker who incarnated into an illuminati family.
That is how the Light infiltrates after all. You have to pass for "one of them" in order to get anywhere. When the time is ripe, which will be very soon, the high integrity of Obama will be visible for all to see. The New is growing out of the crumbling "old world order". I feel that Obama is an expression of this New, and that this is where his Heart truly is. "Playing along to get along" is necessary at this stage in the game. Soon he will not be bound by that anymore. Let's at least give the New and Good a chance, and see what happens. So far, so good.
In the Light,
Sa
http://www.wakeupcall2012.com
(Reply)
----- Original Message -----
From: LU
To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:03 PM
Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10
Message:
If anyone would research the people that Obama has surrounded himself with and plans to bring into his administration, they would discover the horrors of what these people have done. Obama has appointed Rahum Emanuel for his Chief of Staff. This man has been involved in nefarious plots for GHWBush going back for years. In Emanuel\'s book that he wrote a few years back, he talks of a mandatory plan for America\'s youth to spend from age 18 to 25, in \'government service\', very frighteningly similar to Hitlers Youth Group back during WW2. And this is where Obama has gotten, or was given this idea he recently speaks of about implementing a program where all of America\'s youth must spend at least three years \'serving government\'. This is horrendous.
Obama wants Lawrence Summers for Secretary of US Treasury. Summers was Secy Treasury before, under Bill Clinton, right after Summers played a key role in REMOVING the Glass Steagall Act in 1999, which was the protective shield against vast corruption in the banks and money houses preventing them from manipulations, accounting schemes and insider trading, which caused over 5,000 banks and Wall St to crash in 1929. Summers spearheaded the Financial Services Modernization Act, of 1999 under Clinton which transfered the entire US financial services of insurance co\'s, pension funds, securities co\'s and other, over to a handfull of financial conglomerates and their associated Hedge Funds. Since that time.....look what has happened. We are now in a financial meltdown thanks to Summers and others like him. Summers was chief economist for the World Bank....his actions were so devastating, the results were mass poverty to developing countries. Summers is known for his idea of dumping toxic waste onto 3rd world countries because those people have shorter lives and low market values, so it would be cost effective to dump all toxic waste over there.
Summers and others like Paul Volker, Timothy Geithner and Jon Corzine are who Obama is looking at to \"get us out of the mess\"....but it is they who were involved in perpetratiing this mess to begin with! Some of them like Summers and Corzine were CEO\'s of Goldman Sachs. Summers is currently employed at Goldman\'s as their Hedge Fund manager!
All these people have done in their careers is destroy countries and non elitists and steal and pillage. Obama\'s choices are a spectre of death to America\'s economy because that is what they do...destroy economy for personal profit and care not for humanity and work against citizens. Obama\'s choices alone should warn you.
Obama was always known as a fence sitter in Illinois, notable for nothing at all. He sometimes warmed a seat. Suddenly he appears with tons of banker money and runs for president. He has far too many globalist financial fascists hands up his ass directing him to be anything but darkness. And no, he cant get rid of them and suddenly be the white knight. He\'s already taken the sewer bath, its too late and his choices prove that.
(Reply)
----- Original Message -----
From: EW
To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:14 AM
Subject: 'Hello, Central!' NESARA Update, Nov. 10, 2008: You are Mistaken!
Greetings Patrick,
My sources go along with what RM has written.
If Obama is a 'trojan horse', he is being greeted by the cheering crowd
in the courtyard of the Illuminati's castle, not in the bastions of
'Free America'. But, you have to remember that the Illuminati controlled
Electoral College doesn't get to make Obama President until December 15th.
So, the Trojan Horse must continue to look like a gift from the Puppet Master
of the Illuminati until at least December 15th, or even January 20 (Inaguration
day). And then, the wraps can come off, and the invasion for truth and justice
can begin - "The CHANGE".
You seem to negatate the presence of 'angellic' protection, if Obama is who
he has been reported to be.
The Zetas' report on Obama this last seems to confirm Obama, if you accept
the Zetas as being authentic and a source of factual truth.
From: http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta482.htm
Question:
Some say Obama will eliminate free speech on talk radio that
is conservative, and that he will make any negative comment about
anything "hate speech" punishable as felonies, and that he will
either eliminate guns and ammo or tax ammo beyond anything affordable.
How do you see Obama and the 1st and 2nd amendment? [and from another]
In the last several days before the election both Obama'a grandmother
in Kenya and Kenya newspapers stated unequivocally that Obama was
born in Kenya. Yet to my knowledge no US court has thrown out an
elected candidate in US History. So the Supreme Court is considering
the Berg case, how will that work out? [and from another] What is
with the images of Obama with a halo, in priestly garments, giving
blessings, with christian symbols and votive candles sold with him
on it looking like the Messiah. He joked he was born in a manger.
Does he honestly believe and do the Zetas treat him like a Messiah?
Or is this a white lie and he is the Anti-Christ? I hear both sides
argued even now after the election. Why is that in the equation?
Response from Zetas (Through Nancy L.)
We will not take the time to respond to every silly rumor about Obama
that has been floated on the Internet. He taught law at the University
level, and understands the constitution better than most. Fear mongering
was used by the Republicans during the general election, and these charges
should be seen for what they are. Lies were spread about his legal status
as a citizen, with an attempt at a court case to cloud his status as the
Democratic nominee, attempting to force the Democratic party to accept
Clinton instead. This did not fly. For those who are fools and truly
cannot embrace change, the Anti-Christ rumor was supplied.
And:
Question:
Does Obama suspect that he is a star child? Was his "séance gaffe"
a hint to his personal beliefs? He is known to be inspired by Lincoln;
GMS has written that Obama is Lincoln reincarnated. Is GMS correct, or
was he more or less speaking figuratively?
Response from Zetas:
Obama was also Lincoln, as is obvious to many. Most Star Children recognize
early that they are different, and sense the reason why. In Obama's case,
he was a walk-in during his teens, so was able to chose the body and life
circumstances for his mission. In such cases, where a walk-in occurs, the
human body and mind sense a change, and seek an answer for this, arriving
at the conclusion that they have a new soul within. unquote
Ruth Montgomery - psychic of the 1970s - 80s explains 'walk-ins' as advanced
souls who have a mission, and take over a body where the resident soul is about
to return, (for various reasons) to the spirit world. It is most interesting
that a concept she learned from her spirit guides 40 or so years would be
used in this Zeta response, and mean exactly the same thing.
You can find the Ruth Montgomery interview here where she predicts a
"walk-in President":
http://www.catholicrevelations.org/PR/r ... gomery.htm
I realize that you are fully convinced that Obama is totally evil,
but, please, wait and see before final condemnation and judgment.
EW
(Reply)
----- Original Message -----
From: T
To: Patrick Bellringer
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:51 PM
Subject: 'Hello, Central!' NESARA Update, Nov. 10, 2008: You are Mistaken! (Updated Nov. 10, 2008)
You people are just not getting it!!!
(from Aton)
"Chelas, the Light triumphs either way. If the NESARA Mission is accomplished, the Light wins. If Mother Earth moves into her birthing right, the Light has won. The evil ones cannot survive in salt water. "
And...
"Her movement into 5th dimension goes forth each day. This is the only equation that would interrupt the NESARA Mission, if she chooses to move into 5th dimension before the Mission is completed. The threats of continuous war using nuclear weapons is greater than it was back in the 1990’s. That is why we are still on Red, Red Alert waiting for that evacuation moment. That, too, is momentary."
And...
"Mother Earth is birthing into 5th Dimension and is not delaying in this process. She has been granted the right to move into her higher dimension for she has done her mission, and has passed all her tests."
And... (from Violinio)
"We have come to help, as the Lightworkers have requested such, and to evacuate those, who wish to board our ships to safety, when Mother Earth’s cleansing starts in earnest, and it is not safe to stay upon her surface."
And...
"We are here to help when asked, but more so to evacuate those from Shan, when the birthing of Mother Earth into 5th dimension starts in earnest. This would be the physical pole shift of Shan that has occurred many times in the past. This time, however, Mother Earth has been granted permission to move into 5th dimension. That time, chela, is very soon, for we are on Red, Red Alert."
And...
"I have been actively working with those responsible to get the packets to the people and to help with the NESARA announcement. It is not my job to do it for you, but to help those, who have asked for my help. The job shall be done in spite of the opposition of the Darkside, for they shall never win against goodness. This move to goodness is to happen very soon. I have no exact date, but the timing and sequence are in order, and despite the present Darkside opposition, that shall be overcome, and the move to implement NESARA shall happen quickly.
Will there be time after the funding for years of clean-up and restoring of Mother Earth? I do not know, for it depends upon Mother Earth. She is the one to decide, when her birthing into 5th dimension occurs. From all signs of the times, that moment is quite near."
***********************************
How much clearer than this can they get??? There is going to be a pole shift, the planet is doing her thing now. We have been seeing the signs for months now!!! We don't have much longer to wait. We need to stop focusing on the illusion and see the reality of what is happening now!!!
NESARA will get done, the planet will begin her shift, everyone will be evacuated and sorted out later, and then life goes on. It will take at least 15 years for the planet to calm down after her Cleansing, and we will let her do her thing. That is her way to recycle herself. And she is good at it. This isn't a normal shift, she is also going to the 5th dimension, so everyone needs to evacuate.
Schoolhouse Earth/Shan will be closed for renovations. She has earned a rest! And she will get it.
And we will not be here. So don't worry about Obama or their plans. NONE of it will be able to happen. THEY HAVE LOST!!!
It's over. I thank you, Patrick and Anne!!!
T
"Follow the Money"
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Re: NESARA UPDATE
From: KH
To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:20 PM
Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10
Message:
Regarding your article "Obama's Trojan Horse" by Paul Balles I would like to post the the following comment.
This article speaks of a "Trojan Horse" regarding Obama. I believe that the analogy is appropriate, however the details are incorrect. It appears obvious that Obama was indeed used as a charismatic sock-puppet to allow that Yoseph, zee self proclaimed "zionist" Biden to ride inside that "Trojan Horse" campaign of Barack Hussein Obama to ensure that Israel would get their man (Biden) into yet another high position of the American Government in order to access our money, weapons, military, and children (soldiers) to fight the zionist\'s political agenda's and wars. No doubt Biden has no more charisma than McCain, so the Trojan Horse approach was used to get him inside the gates.
They also ran a lame horse opponent so that there was no real competition.
Regarding the dress which madame Obama was wearing at the election night gathering, with the red, violin shape of the female "black widow" spider. see: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1162.htm
Is this "Operation Black Widow "(or Barack Widow)? This appears to be an obvious signal that madame Obama may soon become a "black widow", and Yoseph, "zee self proclaimed zionista" Biden shall be zee new prezidante of of the "Divided States of America".
Are the illuminati planning race wars for their\"ordo ab chaos" (order out of chaos) plans, and that is why we recently had the alleged story of two WHITE NAZI SUPREMACISTS allegedly plotting to \"harm\" spider-man (Barkey). This sets the deep psychological seed for hatred when they pull off their plan.
There have also been videos of Black Panthers intimidating voters at the polls, as well as internet rumors of blacks buying weapons, and telling the store owners they were getting ready to kill whitee if spidee (Barack) did not win! Now whitee hates blackee and blackee hates whitee seeds have been subliminally implanted!
If something happens to Obama, then Yoseph, "zee self proclaimed zionista" Biden, shall come to zee rescue as zee new saviour of zee new world order. Of course zee new fuhrer shall have to take away all of your rights and your guns in order to protect you, just like Stalin and Hitler did. But it will only be temporary, and for your own good, until zee "new world order" is restored!
One picture speaks a thousand words. Look again at that dress! Is it not the most hideous looking dress you have ever seen in your life (unless you are a spider) Obama is pro-Islam. Yoseph is pro-zionist Israel. Who do you think these people (zionista's) want in the office. McCain was a lame horse opponent chosen to guarantee spidee man got in office. Biden was pro-Hillary and anti-Spidee until it was decide to use Spidee as a Trojan Horse to get Yoseph-san into zee V.P. position so should madame Obama become a \"black widow\" then all zee dominoes would fall into place. A mossad chief of staff (Rham-bo) and a zionist president.
P.S.- Who is the new chief of staff? What is his background?
Google his name along with the words "terrorist", "mossad", IDF, or "Israel".
KH
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Regarding your article "Obama's Trojan Horse" by Paul Balles I would like to post the the following comment.
This article speaks of a "Trojan Horse" regarding Obama. I believe that the analogy is appropriate, however the details are incorrect. It appears obvious that Obama was indeed used as a charismatic sock-puppet to allow that Yoseph, zee self proclaimed "zionist" Biden to ride inside that "Trojan Horse" campaign of Barack Hussein Obama to ensure that Israel would get their man (Biden) into yet another high position of the American Government in order to access our money, weapons, military, and children (soldiers) to fight the zionist\'s political agenda's and wars. No doubt Biden has no more charisma than McCain, so the Trojan Horse approach was used to get him inside the gates.
They also ran a lame horse opponent so that there was no real competition.
Regarding the dress which madame Obama was wearing at the election night gathering, with the red, violin shape of the female "black widow" spider. see: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1162.htm
Is this "Operation Black Widow "(or Barack Widow)? This appears to be an obvious signal that madame Obama may soon become a "black widow", and Yoseph, "zee self proclaimed zionista" Biden shall be zee new prezidante of of the "Divided States of America".
Are the illuminati planning race wars for their\"ordo ab chaos" (order out of chaos) plans, and that is why we recently had the alleged story of two WHITE NAZI SUPREMACISTS allegedly plotting to \"harm\" spider-man (Barkey). This sets the deep psychological seed for hatred when they pull off their plan.
There have also been videos of Black Panthers intimidating voters at the polls, as well as internet rumors of blacks buying weapons, and telling the store owners they were getting ready to kill whitee if spidee (Barack) did not win! Now whitee hates blackee and blackee hates whitee seeds have been subliminally implanted!
If something happens to Obama, then Yoseph, "zee self proclaimed zionista" Biden, shall come to zee rescue as zee new saviour of zee new world order. Of course zee new fuhrer shall have to take away all of your rights and your guns in order to protect you, just like Stalin and Hitler did. But it will only be temporary, and for your own good, until zee "new world order" is restored!
One picture speaks a thousand words. Look again at that dress! Is it not the most hideous looking dress you have ever seen in your life (unless you are a spider) Obama is pro-Islam. Yoseph is pro-zionist Israel. Who do you think these people (zionista's) want in the office. McCain was a lame horse opponent chosen to guarantee spidee man got in office. Biden was pro-Hillary and anti-Spidee until it was decide to use Spidee as a Trojan Horse to get Yoseph-san into zee V.P. position so should madame Obama become a \"black widow\" then all zee dominoes would fall into place. A mossad chief of staff (Rham-bo) and a zionist president.
P.S.- Who is the new chief of staff? What is his background?
Google his name along with the words "terrorist", "mossad", IDF, or "Israel".
KH
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Re: NESARA UPDATE
Not everybody in the New Age world is rabidly anti-Obama like Bellringer. From the PagPawnt forum.
Aquarius Rising
OBAMA AND THE AQUARIAN AGE
America is "the prototype of the universal society…and a global pioneer."
Zbigniew Brzezinski (11.07.08)
The words spoken by Zbigniew Brzezinski, as he reflected on the significance of Obama’s election, had an oddly familiar ring to the ears of ageless wisdom students. In the view of evolution presented by these teachings, the new age is portrayed as exactly that—a universal society. The time was foreseen when millions of souls would awaken to their higher nature, recognize the oneness of humanity, and redirect their energies toward the greater good. For “new-agers” to express such a vision is one thing. To hear its outlines articulated by a former National Security Advisor is quite another.
The significance of Obama’s election was sensed even by those who supported his opponent. On the morning before Election Day, two conservative pundits on cable TV were discussing what they already knew would be a political tsunami. Bewildered by the Obama phenomenon, they were trying to make sense of it. One said off-handedly, in a tone tinged with cynicism, “If you look at the newspapers from around the world, you’d think that if Obama wins it’s going to be the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.”
The following night, as news of Obama’s election instantly encircled the globe, it was clear that something monumental had occurred for humanity as a whole. Tears of joy streamed down the faces of young and old, rich and poor, black and white, Latino and Asian, known and unknown. A palpable spirit of universal brotherhood and goodwill poured forth as spontaneous celebrations erupted around the world—from Athens to Sydney, Nairobi to Tokyo; from Times Square to Lafayette Square outside the White House. If any single event could mark the start of a new age, this was possibly it.
In the eyes of people who spoke with reporters that night, there was a light reminiscent of the light shining from the faces of people who had caught the Aquarian spirit years earlier, starting at Findhorn—the community in northern Scotland where that spirit took root in the 1960s. That same light appeared among the throngs of celebrants at Grant Park, and at gatherings across the country and around the world—the light of the soul alive to goodness and truth, animated by hope for a new future.
For such souls, something new had entered the world that night. People interviewed by reporters sounded a common theme. One after another, with tears still streaming down their faces, they declared: “This is the best day of my life.” “I’m so happy to be alive right now.” “This is a new world.” “We’re on the verge of a new era.” Commentators also recognized that we had turned a corner. They remarked repeatedly that a transformation had taken place—a generational transformation in leadership as well as a “sense of who we are as a people,” racially and ethnically.
To some, Obama’s election was a spiritual event more than a political one. In a very real way it inaugurated a higher stage of awareness on our planet. If we view the Aquarian Age as a new stage in human consciousness in which the Soul (the higher Self that is one with all) will transcend outer differences and cleavages, it might be said that the choice of Obama for president of the United States was the first utterance of our collective Soul. Everything about his campaign telegraphed the message “we” rather than “me.”
In one resounding decision by the American people, a healing balm was applied to the scars of a nation and the light of justice and equality radiated around the globe. The words of African-American commentators carried the sense that the soul of America is mending, and its long civil war finally ending. Stating that “Dr. King’s mission was to redeem the soul of America,” Jesse Jackson placed Obama’s election “in that stream.” By redeeming itself, America could now legitimately be the “leader of the free world” and, in Brzezinski’s words, become the “global pioneer” for a universal society.
From the start, Obama’s campaign had been pitched to the larger world as well as to the American people. His speeches in cities and towns across the nation unfailingly ended with variations on the message: “Together we will heal the nation and transform the world.” In a sense the Obama campaign, unprecedented in length, and in the millions of people mobilized by it, was a crusade to unify the American people first and next to build, on that foundation, a genuinely new world order.
Ironically, hard-nosed politicians and commentators often chided Barack Obama about the softness of his message of change. When his opponents finally recognized the depths of America’s hunger for change and tried to co-opt the message, they were unconvincing. While they were still “rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic,” Obama evoked the sea change possible through a massive stirring of souls. If enough people elected to end the dark night of cynicism and fear we could, together, forge a new reality for all.
That our old reality is teetering on the brink of disaster clearly worked in Obama’s favor. The worsening conditions in our global economy and environment have exposed the fact that a world order based on selfish interests is unsustainable. The chain of events now unfolding appears designed for humanity to see that competing self-interests, individual and national, eventually lead to mutual destruction. It has become self-evident that the new reality of interconnectedness has to be the foundation of a new world era.
In his victory speech, Obama called upon Americans to “reclaim the American dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth that out of many we are one.” Alluding to the message that Americans had just sent to the world, by electing him, he repeated, “We have never been just a collection of individuals, or of red states and blue states, we are and always will be the United States of America.”
The phrase “collection of individuals” was perhaps an oblique reference to the narcissism that has dominated American life in recent decades. And yet the corrosive alienation born of narcissism may have served as fuel to awaken the Soul of America and engender a sense of shared identity. To realize this new identity, at a depth from which we can together create a new world order, is the mission of the coming age. Breaking out of the narrow confines of a separative sense of individualism, which brought us to this point in evolution, will obviously require time and struggle. Obama alluded to this when he said, “The road ahead will be long. The climb will be steep.”
“But,” he continued, “tonight I promise you that we as a people will get there.” As TV cameras panned the shining faces in the crowd, one could actually see the old era of “every man for himself” giving way to a new awareness of “we as a people.” And “we,” for Obama, is inclusive of all. “To all watching tonight from beyond our shores,” he intoned, “our stories are singular but our destiny is shared. A new dawn of American leadership is at hand.” Given what enlightened American leadership can mean for the world, as humanity comes of age, we may actually be on the cusp of the golden era prophesied by the sages of old.
Nancy Seifer and Martin Vieweg
Aquarius Rising
OBAMA AND THE AQUARIAN AGE
America is "the prototype of the universal society…and a global pioneer."
Zbigniew Brzezinski (11.07.08)
The words spoken by Zbigniew Brzezinski, as he reflected on the significance of Obama’s election, had an oddly familiar ring to the ears of ageless wisdom students. In the view of evolution presented by these teachings, the new age is portrayed as exactly that—a universal society. The time was foreseen when millions of souls would awaken to their higher nature, recognize the oneness of humanity, and redirect their energies toward the greater good. For “new-agers” to express such a vision is one thing. To hear its outlines articulated by a former National Security Advisor is quite another.
The significance of Obama’s election was sensed even by those who supported his opponent. On the morning before Election Day, two conservative pundits on cable TV were discussing what they already knew would be a political tsunami. Bewildered by the Obama phenomenon, they were trying to make sense of it. One said off-handedly, in a tone tinged with cynicism, “If you look at the newspapers from around the world, you’d think that if Obama wins it’s going to be the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.”
The following night, as news of Obama’s election instantly encircled the globe, it was clear that something monumental had occurred for humanity as a whole. Tears of joy streamed down the faces of young and old, rich and poor, black and white, Latino and Asian, known and unknown. A palpable spirit of universal brotherhood and goodwill poured forth as spontaneous celebrations erupted around the world—from Athens to Sydney, Nairobi to Tokyo; from Times Square to Lafayette Square outside the White House. If any single event could mark the start of a new age, this was possibly it.
In the eyes of people who spoke with reporters that night, there was a light reminiscent of the light shining from the faces of people who had caught the Aquarian spirit years earlier, starting at Findhorn—the community in northern Scotland where that spirit took root in the 1960s. That same light appeared among the throngs of celebrants at Grant Park, and at gatherings across the country and around the world—the light of the soul alive to goodness and truth, animated by hope for a new future.
For such souls, something new had entered the world that night. People interviewed by reporters sounded a common theme. One after another, with tears still streaming down their faces, they declared: “This is the best day of my life.” “I’m so happy to be alive right now.” “This is a new world.” “We’re on the verge of a new era.” Commentators also recognized that we had turned a corner. They remarked repeatedly that a transformation had taken place—a generational transformation in leadership as well as a “sense of who we are as a people,” racially and ethnically.
To some, Obama’s election was a spiritual event more than a political one. In a very real way it inaugurated a higher stage of awareness on our planet. If we view the Aquarian Age as a new stage in human consciousness in which the Soul (the higher Self that is one with all) will transcend outer differences and cleavages, it might be said that the choice of Obama for president of the United States was the first utterance of our collective Soul. Everything about his campaign telegraphed the message “we” rather than “me.”
In one resounding decision by the American people, a healing balm was applied to the scars of a nation and the light of justice and equality radiated around the globe. The words of African-American commentators carried the sense that the soul of America is mending, and its long civil war finally ending. Stating that “Dr. King’s mission was to redeem the soul of America,” Jesse Jackson placed Obama’s election “in that stream.” By redeeming itself, America could now legitimately be the “leader of the free world” and, in Brzezinski’s words, become the “global pioneer” for a universal society.
From the start, Obama’s campaign had been pitched to the larger world as well as to the American people. His speeches in cities and towns across the nation unfailingly ended with variations on the message: “Together we will heal the nation and transform the world.” In a sense the Obama campaign, unprecedented in length, and in the millions of people mobilized by it, was a crusade to unify the American people first and next to build, on that foundation, a genuinely new world order.
Ironically, hard-nosed politicians and commentators often chided Barack Obama about the softness of his message of change. When his opponents finally recognized the depths of America’s hunger for change and tried to co-opt the message, they were unconvincing. While they were still “rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic,” Obama evoked the sea change possible through a massive stirring of souls. If enough people elected to end the dark night of cynicism and fear we could, together, forge a new reality for all.
That our old reality is teetering on the brink of disaster clearly worked in Obama’s favor. The worsening conditions in our global economy and environment have exposed the fact that a world order based on selfish interests is unsustainable. The chain of events now unfolding appears designed for humanity to see that competing self-interests, individual and national, eventually lead to mutual destruction. It has become self-evident that the new reality of interconnectedness has to be the foundation of a new world era.
In his victory speech, Obama called upon Americans to “reclaim the American dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth that out of many we are one.” Alluding to the message that Americans had just sent to the world, by electing him, he repeated, “We have never been just a collection of individuals, or of red states and blue states, we are and always will be the United States of America.”
The phrase “collection of individuals” was perhaps an oblique reference to the narcissism that has dominated American life in recent decades. And yet the corrosive alienation born of narcissism may have served as fuel to awaken the Soul of America and engender a sense of shared identity. To realize this new identity, at a depth from which we can together create a new world order, is the mission of the coming age. Breaking out of the narrow confines of a separative sense of individualism, which brought us to this point in evolution, will obviously require time and struggle. Obama alluded to this when he said, “The road ahead will be long. The climb will be steep.”
“But,” he continued, “tonight I promise you that we as a people will get there.” As TV cameras panned the shining faces in the crowd, one could actually see the old era of “every man for himself” giving way to a new awareness of “we as a people.” And “we,” for Obama, is inclusive of all. “To all watching tonight from beyond our shores,” he intoned, “our stories are singular but our destiny is shared. A new dawn of American leadership is at hand.” Given what enlightened American leadership can mean for the world, as humanity comes of age, we may actually be on the cusp of the golden era prophesied by the sages of old.
Nancy Seifer and Martin Vieweg
"Follow the Money"