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("Clyde may look like a local electrician, but he's really
only one of
6 or 8 people in the world capable of pulling off
this $97 Quintzillion
trade which is now being held up by the
European bankers . . .")
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:31:44 -0500
Thanks for the carbon copy of your letter, and I am sure that
Mr. Magro can answer for himself. Nonetheless, he heads up
the recovery group for Nations/Malibu.
I lost $1500 to Nations through coordinator Pam MacLeod, whom
he mentioned in his post. I did not join the recovery group
2-3 years ago upon Pam's example. I may have made a mistake,
although I'm not sure. I do know that hindsight is always
20/20. They advertised in USA Today at that time, and if I
had it to do over, I probably would have joined it.
Magro recently cast aspersion on Ms. MacLeod in a post. I
have never personally thought her to be a willing part of
the Nations scam, but it certainly appears that Patricia Nolan
and George Hart were. I do know that it is possible for an
ethical coordinator to be victimized along with the rest of
the lenders. I am not vouching for Ms. MacLeod one way or
I think that what Magro knows is basic info from the court.
He lives in nearby Springfield and says he is attending the
sessions. He seems to have bonded with Springer as over against
CH. Says CH doesn't need the $ for his own defense. Others
say that CH's assets were frozen, and that he does need the
Occasionally, a lender who posts on these mails seems to think
himself the only friend of Omega and the others its enemies,
which many on these mails have found too presumptuous and
misguided for their blood. Most of the writers are capable
of stringing two sentences together without the help of an
editor or redactor. Certainly those who loaned to CH and MK
alike are as big a friend of funding as anyone who arrogates
to himself a special view.
If CH is as savvy as we were led to believe at one time, then
it does beg the question why he didn't take some precaution
offshore ahead of time for his own defense, and outside of
the long arm of the authorities here at home. Be that as it
may, I still believe that we need to give CH the benefit of
the doubt and do what we can to support him, and presumably,
the project. He always was OT&T Ltd as we knew it at this
level. It's wisest to hedge our bets, which is what I did
in the case of CH and MK when enrolling in the project.
It would be simple enough to write Mr. Queener yourself and
to glean what facts you can. As soon as I have a real estate
closing toward the end of this month, I plan to send what
I can, although it won't be a windfall. I hope to influence
others in that direction as well, and I know that time is
I hope to send more to Springer as well, although he has disavowed
some of the more active letter writers. It's hard to tell
what the complete and true story is, which is why I have dealt
in mosaic. Where the facts overlap is where the true story
probably is. FRB is involved, as was Mr. Summers (formerly
at Treasury), because the accelerated money program is fundamentally
an FRB program in the generation of Eurodollars abroad. Therefore,
it is silly to try and disprove a European connection. I do
not know Truth Warrior, but she seems to have some real knowledge
of the "gray hats" and the "black hats"
in this conflict. These, presumably, are the same "good
guys" and "bad guys" that MK referred to in
phone conversations some time ago.
There may also be credence in the story about the executive
orders issued by WJC, which must be rescinded one by one.
The truth, I believe, is a mixed bag. If that story is true,
then we need to see copies of those orders. We do know that
WJC helped the OECD in its efforts to subvert low-tax or no-tax
Unless we witness actual documentation at FRB, the EU or elsewhere,
then we all are relying on the best testimony available. Some
of us bring a longer perspective from programs that antedate
this one by several years.
Messengers like the acerbic angellady have put out an accurate
list of the private stockholders of FRB. Some of her info
and that of dove's appear to have some elements of merit on
some points, although angel unwisely attacks those who hold
faithfully to basic, historic Christianity. I doubt that our
answers are in the stars or in the readings from the tarot
cards or in prayer to 'angels' as though to a god, or in other
psychic forms and the occult.
Again, CH always was OT&T Ltd as we knew it, and MK insinuated
himself successfully into the process. MK has helped some
of the lenders financially by sending them $, one of whom
is a local here that I know very well. This speaks well of
MK. Others who have worked with MK have a different assessment
of his consistency with the facts. I intend to give all the
benefit of the doubt and to continue to try and help in the
defense effort. It is best that we hedge our bets, and we
need writers who can articulate themselves persuasively and
comprehensively on this point, as well as others.
Springer et al view MK as our champion, but Mr. Springer's
last mail stated rather clearly that CH is key to the whole
process. His concern appeared to be that scarce defense dollars
not be siphoned off from his defense of MK. All CH has to
do to set us all free, Mr. Springer said, is (1) to prove
that trades exist (2) to prove what he did with our money.
This, presumably, would be the new attorney's basic strategem
for victory. On the face of it, it seems to be the only real
strategem at court.
It may well be that we as lenders have a vested interest in
the defense effort and against the injunction. Certainly,
if we pay for the defense, then we are entitled to some reasonable
degree of accounting, which is another reason why I intend
to participate. If anyone has actually received as has been
reported, then he could be subpoenaed to testify in court
and his or her existence made a certainty.
No one writer is the ultimate conduit of all the truth regarding
Omega, and as a former print journalist, I really do believe
that the defendant has a Constitutional right to be presumed
innocent unless and until proven guilty. The facts must out
themselves in open court.
I hope that all these guys are as innocent as the driven snow.
The reporter in me intends to err on the side of the benefit
of the doubt.
My guess is that the truth is a mixed bag, either in the case
of one defendant over the other, or in both cases, or in the
case of all of the Urbana 19. We still do not know for certain
what happened during the famous Hallelujah letter writing
campaign. I'm not sure that even Mr. Springer knows all the
facts, since he represents only one client.
I have personally never thought of dove or angel or of others
as government "plants," as some insinuate from seemingly
sinister motives of their own. But it does appear to any casual
observer that some of the messengers may have been used as
mouthpieces in disseminating information that has been proven
wrong time and again.
I initially signed onto the Springer option because it seemed
to be the middle way, or Aristotle's golden mean, between
inaction on the one hand, and filing suit (as some were advocating
at the time), on the other hand. It was our way of getting
at some facts, it seemed to me. The caveat we face, however,
is that a legal representative for another is usually wise
to say little when a case is under litigation. Less is usually
more when a case is under litigation.
The charge against the lenders by Mr. Springer of greed is
a bit misplaced, I believe. Probably a majority of the lenders
on these mails are people of average means, and they have
done the best they can to secure their future.
Many are impoverished by their own hand, having bought into
the imminent funding scenario. But it is a black hole that
will suck the unwitting victim into the dense gravity from
which some may never return again the same. Those of a more
mystical bent are also in danger -- of being sucked into Wonderland
with Alice or with Dorothy into Oz, such is the nature of
the anonymous medium known as the academy of cyberspace.
It is simple enough to write Mr. Queener, Mr. Springer et
al and inquire of the facts for ourselves, as they have them
or as they present them. I have written Mr. Springer a time
or two on the mails. In my own case, making a living keeps
on getting in the way of following up with the project in
general as much as I would like to anymore. Wish I could do
more, but I am among those digging out. We are all derelict
if we do not return to supporting our families, however disheartening
our present employment.
I promise you that these are the words of one who cares very
deeply about funding for myself, my family, my friends, and
for the many decent and needy and ethical lenders. I care
as deeply as anyone else cares.
We ought to work together the best that we can, frail humans
though we all be, and forget the moral stupidity of egotism
that others accuse others of when they indict themselves.
I find that it is better to articulate one's case and persuade
people with a modicum of influence on these mails than it
is to crash and mangle the whole china shop.
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